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<p dir="auto"><strong>nishivijay</strong> — <em>10 years ago(June 19, 2015 09:29 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">When he started training he was under the tutelage of a boxing trainer that had him do mostly calisthenics with one weighted exercise (shrugs) for extremely high reps.<br />
Then when he starts slacking off like the buster douglas fight for example he's probably still working out doing the right exercises for probably at least 30 minutes a day because you're always capable of training that way<br />
but nowadays boxers lift weights which was kind of a big no no in the past but they're not lifting heavy weights.  they're lifting lighter weights.  i still think as a practical matter this approach is inferior mainly for reasons stated above (convenience, practicality) but that could make sense.<br />
but then before his last few matches like kevin mcbride he just started listening to imbeciles that have no love or concern for boxing telling you'll get nowhere if you listen to the pros, you should listen to us joe less than average no research no love egoist trainers and at first he was a rebel but by mcbride they said he was doing everything he was supposed to.. lifting heavy weights, etc.  And then they probably think, you're mike tyson it won't matter anyway, it's all <em>beep</em> so you should listen to our wishful thinking and it will probably work out anyway<br />
he probably thought they had a point.  How would he know if he didn't try.<br />
imagine how much your muscles are going to tighten up in a boxing ring doing that stuff?  He got cramps so bad he couldn't even walk and quit on his stool.  I don't care when a boxer quits as long as it's not ridiculous but the mental strain he must have gone through trying to get that body to perform this activity when it's just tightening and straining and falling apart, it must have actually been an incredible effort.  15 minutes is not long but i wouldn't put myself through that if it helped and it hurt him.<br />
he should have not wanted to know and just listen to the guys that actually know what they're doing.  If he was doing MMA or something where you need a different kind of strength that's different, but the guys that loved boxing and were telling him what to do were telling him the right he shouldn't have stepped out of boundaries so much<br />
but we know what happened even if you're mike tyson you have to follow the rules or your body will fail i don't even think it's fair to blame age if he's training like that<br />
i'm kind of being unfair to him.  if he did the 'right thing' maybe that would show a lack of humility in him as a man when you get past his career.  i don't know what the situation was to have fitness trainers train a boxer.  i would scream foul play but it's not always that way.  for example samuel peter was  a respectable heavy weight boxer, they kept on hiring these fitness trainers, he started to lose and the pain and torture and strain must have been so much more just to lose he quit boxing and moved back to Africa, and I don't think that situation was a fowl play situation.  i just don't know how this happens; it's not always dirty but people believe in genes so much that they don't care, and they can't leave well enough alone</p>
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