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Bobby always got a bad rap. Remember he didn't start doing class A narcotics until he met Whitney who had been doing them since she was a teenager. All Bobby did up to then was drink and smoke weed. The narcotics destroyed his career
Very true. Shame.
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Bobby always got a bad rap. Remember he didn't start doing class A narcotics until he met Whitney who had been doing them since she was a teenager. All Bobby did up to then was drink and smoke weed. The narcotics destroyed his career, thanks Whitney. The whole public image of Whitney Houston was totally false. She was a stone cold junkie.

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I only want the best for them

No, it was not all Bobby's fault. Whitney were doing some drugs BEFORE she got with Bobby but it did increase AFTER she married Bobby.
Whitney is not really nice to her fans and she has no problems in letting them know how she feels about them.

I am not a hater! I don't like everyone saying its all Bobby's fault!
Whitney Houston has the better chance of a comeback out of the two. I think Both Bobby and Whitney have problems. If they both stop doing drugs & goto to AA meetings they might become happier people!

As time as shown us she no longer had a great voice, She could not get a grip on her life. Sad but that is what happens to addicts.

by - lilkunta3 on Sun Sep 17 2006 14:38:16
@#1: r u a fan or a hater? She was not always on drugs u know.
As stated in my post, I USE to be a long time fan. I don't hate her, I hate what SHE did to her life and wonderful career. I am pissed that she could be so stupid! Pot is considered a drug she was smoking it before she became famous. Even her cousin Ms.Warwick was busted with pot at the airport. Bobby was more of a drinker until he and Whitney got together (according to her brother) and he was turned on to pot. Which he claims is now used for medical reasons.So she has been using for a long time and graduated to the expensive stuff over time.
@#2: Just bc WH had a reality show does not mean she gave up her privacy rights.
I wasn't referring to her reality show (never watched it. Didn't want to see her make more of a fool of herself)
What went on behind closed doors we did see, so I see y WH is like bug offshe gave us the inside on her & still we r not satisfied. If she is out having dinner or shopping or whatever & is approached, I think she does have the right to say leave me alone. However WH being totally rude ( yelling cussing @ fans is not right ).
I agree, she does have a right to privacy in public when she is not working. But those are the breaks when you're in show business.
#3: How do u know her true feelings? R u saying she hates fans?Do u know 4 sure that
The woman herself has said it enough and has never tried to recant it.
#4: The E article u posted said "alleged". Where is this suit 2day?
It was dismissed when her father died, you can't repay a dead man.
#5: As far as Wh not attending her dad's funeral, that is btwn WH,& the Houston family. This is similiar to the hatred/flack/bad press WH rec;d 4 not attending/performing @ that Clive Davis special. But from the pics published earlier this week as well as the press statements from CD, all is well btwn the, so hopefully all was well btwn WH & JH b4 he died.
I wish I could say it was, but it wasn't. Whitney was refusing calls and not speaking to her father. he got to say he loved her and wanted things resolved but she wasn't hearing any of it as long as there was that law suit. She has to live with that for the rest of her life.
#6: So John Houston was soo broke that he couldnt afford his boat? I dont believe that. Skinner or whoever is running JH company purposely didnt alllow JH the boat 2 so that could be pinned on WH.
Like I said maybe he had to liquidate his assets to pool all the cash to get Whitney out of her financial trouble, or it could have been that he wanted to be sure to get his money back (when she signed that contract)before she could put it all up her nose. It was him who said he wanted the money for that purpose, from his hospital bed, to a camera to his daughter.
U say all ur info was from live interviews that are not able to be substantiated now so.
I provided what I could find, I have no reason to lie. What little I did find holds up what I posted
I just want to sat whatever is going on, I wish WH , BB, & especially BKB the best. I hope both W & B get off druugs & alcohol & stay of alcohol. I hope BK doesnt use drugs in light of the environment she has from her parents.
Like I said, I think Bobby has more of a chance of getting clean. She has shown on more than one occassion that she can't stay away from the stuff. When you get to the point where you're going into alleys and getting mugged and you're still chasing that high, it's going to take something drastic to either wake you up, oryou're not going to wake up.I just wish and hope someone is looking out for Kristen. I was shocked to learn she was still in the house and in the same room with both parents who were wacked out of their skulls.
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Re: @castaway5001 by - castaway5001 on Sun Sep 17 2006 09:56:08
#1
Yes,only because their support means keeping the money rolling to support her habit.
#2
Generally I'm one to respect that. Especially when it's about things that goes on behind closed doors. But when you and family memembers decide to air your dirty laundry in public and on camera, your life is no longer private.
#3
I agree, her use enabled her to speak her true feelings. Once she got started she couldn't stop.
I would gladly share it if I could, but as stated, it was a live interview. One with her brother and later Whitney herself.
He was sick, not stupid. What prevented him was the money he loaned his daughter, we're not talking about fifty - five thousand here. We're talking millions.
He didn't have years left, he had days. She didn't even show up for his funeral. She can act a fool for the press,show herself all cracked out for the press, but she couldn't show up at his services because of the press? She wouldn't be the first celeb to request that the press stay away out of respect for the family.(She didn't request that) I think there were one or two press members there with family permission. A convenient excuse for Whitney not to attend? In my opinionyes!But we'll just blame that on the drugs too. She has a lot to a tone for. Not for her fans (her career shouldn't even be a part of her getting her life back) Her main concern, as it should have been from the very start, should be her child who is fast becoming a young woman. With two miscarriages under her belt, you'd think that she would be focused only on her daughter after all this time. Lets blame that on the drugs too. I guess b68none of us realized how stupid and ignorant she was when she decided to use them in the first place and to continue their use after releasing her self from rehab, how many times? I am in no way trying to tell any one not to be her fan, I was a long time fan. I decided not to contribute to her addiction. All the love and support she was getting from her fans was only feeding that ego. If she cared so much she would have cleaned up for herself first then her family and worried about her fans later. But she needed to keep some money flowing in to feed her habit, which is why her so called come back never happened.
@#1: r u a fan or a hater? She was not always on drugs u know.
@#2: Just bc WH had a reality show does not mean she gave up her privacy rights. What went on behind closed doors we did see, so I see y WH is like bug offshe gave us the inside on her & still we r not satisfied. If she is out having dinner or shopping or whatever & is approached, I think she does have the right to say leave me alone. However WH being totally rude ( yelling cussing @ fans is not right ).
#3: How do u know her true feelings? R u saying she hates fans?Do u know 4 sure that
#4: The E article u posted said "alleged". Where is this suit 2day?
#5: As far as Wh not attending her dad's funeral, that is btwn WH,& the Houston family. This is similiar to the hatred/flack/bad press WH rec;d 4 not attending/performing @ that Clive Davis special. But from the pics published earlier this week as well as the press statements from CD, all is well btwn the, so hopefully all was well btwn WH & JH b4 he died.
#6: So John Houston was soo broke that he couldnt afford his boat? I dont believe that. Skinner or whoever is running JH company purposely didnt alllow JH the boat 2 so that could be pinned on WH.
U say all ur info was from live interviews that are not able to be substantiated now so.
I just want to sat whatever is going on, I wish WH , BB, & especially BKB the best. I hope both W & B get off druugs & alcohol & stay of alcohol. I hope BK doesnt use drugs in light of the environment she has from her parents.
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by - lilkunta3 on Sat Sep 16 2006 22:00:00
I think WH does appreciate the fans support & luv 4 her,
Yes,only because their support means keeping the money rolling to support her habit.
but at the same time she has privacy right & needs.
Generally I'm one to respect that. Especially when it's about things that goes on behind closed doors. But when you and family memembers decide to air your dirty laundry in public and on camera, your life is no longer private.
Yes many times she has been rude to the public, I think as a result of the drug use.
I agree, her use enabled her to speak her true feelings. Once she got started she couldn't stop
Do u have proof of all that u stated?
-That is was her brother not Bobbys who got her on drugs?
-That after the 4 Dec 02 Diane Sawyer Primetime Live interview she said " The only thing my fans can do for me is buy my music,other than that they can kiss my A!!" "
I would gladly share it if I could, but as stated, it was a live interview. One with her brother and later Whitney herself.

• I did hear that her dad files suit against her, but WH said in the DS interview that it was her dad's co & not him that filed suit. They were manipulating him bc he was sick & near death in a bid 2 get more $. I have never heard of this boat story u posted. & If he did want to spend his final days on a boat, what prevented him from doing so? How did WH prevent him? Again do u haave a source for her live comment on tv about her father?
  He was sick, not stupid. What prevented him was the money he loaned his daughter, we're not talking about fifty - five thousand here. We're talking millions.
  What house did WH get $ from her dad for? WH has loads of $ from her 4 albums, her movie albums, as well as her production company ( they produced the cheetah girls franchise & the princess diaries franchise )
  Headlines First Look The Dotted Line E! News
  Whitney and Daddy's Family Feud?
  by Josh Grossberg
  Oct 10, 2002, 4:05 PM PT
  Is this the greatest feud of all?
  Whitney Houston is being sued by her dad's management company for $100 million. The diva's alleged transgression? She failed to pay up for services that helped her out of numerous financial jams over the past two years.
  Her father was the company
  The breach of contract suit, filed in New Jersey Superior Court on August 30 by John Houston Entertainment, claims Whitney hired her father and the company's president, Kevin Skinner, to help get her off the hook for her January 2000 pot bust in Hawaii, as well as negotiate her $100 million megadeal with Arista Records in 2001.
  The complaint alleged that the 39-year-old songstress "never intended to pay" her papa and his partner, "fraudulently inducing them to produce various services."
  Such services involved ironing out her personal finances
  (i.e., making payments on her New Jersey mansion)
  and hooking her up with famed entertainment attorney, Allen Grubman, who managed to persuade Hawaiian authorities not to pros5b4ecute her.
  I'm not one to believe every thing in print. Everything I posted was from live interviews I saw on television. I provided a link to the story above which does not mention anything about her father (from his hospital bed) asking for the money back to spend his last days on a boat. When that much money is involved sometimes you have to liquidate assets to get the cash. Maybe thats what he did in helping her and didn't have the cash for what he desired near his end.
  http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,10660,00.html
  Here's a link to his asking her for the money, it was later that day that she was on live television refusing to pay.
  HOLLYWOOD -
  Top Story
  Whitney Houston's ailing father, John Houston, 82, who is suing his daughter for $100 million, conducted a TV interview from his hospital bed where he pleaded with his daughter to "pay me the money you owe me." The interview took place Thursday on the syndicated show Celebrity Justice, the day after the pop diva's own interview on ABC's Primetime with Diane Sawyer, in which the singer stated her father's suit was very hurtful and motivated by "someone putting fear in his heart."
  The suit alleges that Houston didn't pay her father's company for services rendered, including negotiating her contract with Arista Records. The elder Houston addresses his daughter directly during the Celebrity Jus5b4tice interview, stating, "You get your act together, honey, and you pay me the money that you owe me. If you do that, you haven't got a lawsuit. At my age, I haven't got that long. Now if you think I got that long, you think about it. You step into my shoes. I would like to spend the last years of my life on a boat someplace."
  He didn't have years left, he had days. She didn't even show up for his funeral. She can act a fool for the press,show herself all cracked out for the press, but she couldn't show up at his services because of the press? She wouldn't be the first celeb to request that the press stay away out of respect for the family

I think WH does appreciate the fans support & luv 4 her, but at the same time she has privacy right & needs.
Yes many times she has been rude to the public, I think as a result of the drug use.
Do u have proof of all that u stated?
-That is was her brother not Bobbys who got her on drugs?
-That after the 4 Dec 02 Diane Sawyer Primetime Live interview she said "
The only thing my fans can do for me is buy my music,other than that they can kiss my A!!"
"

• I did hear that her dad files suit against her, but WH said in the DS interview that it was her dad's co & not him that filed suit. They were manipulating him bc he was sick & near death in a bid 2 get more $. I have never heard of this boat story u posted. & If he did want to spend his final days on a boat, what prevented him from doing so? How did WH prevent him? Again do u haave a source for her live comment on tv about her father?
  What house did WH get $ from her dad for? WH has loads of $ from her 4 albums, her movie albums, as well as her production company ( they produced the cheetah girls franchise & the princess diaries franchise )
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds37065.html
and thank god she is doing it, she deserves to have a 2nd chance, her voice is excellent.

by - cantbbugged on Fri Sep 15 2006 14:28:42
Whitney does care about her fans.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but she doesn't.
she has thanked her fans numerous times for all of the prayers and support we've given her.
Some days after her interview with Sawyer she was on national television and said," The only thing my fans can do for me is buy my music,other than that they can kiss my A!!"
I'm so glad she's leaving him, this gives her a fresh start.
How many fresh starts does that make? The woman is still lying to herself. Bobby stands more of a chance than she does. After all it was her brother that got her started on the drugs,then she in turn got Bobby started. She was his weakness and they became each others habit.
I'm not blaming her drug problems on bobby but he is a bad influence on her and now she's realizing that.
Sorry I have to disagree here as well. Bobby's personality has not changed much, sober or high he is what he has shown the world. Whitney however is a realB..! When she's high she speaks what's on her mind and in her heart. She doesn't care about anyone but herself. The way she did her dying father is proof of that. To keep her mother from signing her into a rehab facility she threatened her and said she would leave the country and her mother would never see her grand daughter again. She was the bad influence on Bobby, he was infatuated with her and she took advantage of that. Both were old enough to know better when it came to using drugs,so they both share the blame for what their doing to their daughter.
One thing about Bobby, he has always told the truth about his use of drugs, she has lied over and over again and made a fool of her self each time she was caught in her lies. She is the cause of her own downfall, she is a grown woman, it was her life, her choices. She bit at every hand that reached out to help her, said to hell with her fans, they can't do a damn thing for me. I decided a long time ago I would not help her (enable her)to be able to buy more drugs, by purchasing her music. Her poor father loaned her money to keep her from losing her home. When Arista signed her on to a new contract her father asked for the return of his money so he could spend his last days on a boat, she replied on live television that he was not getting a damn thing. Not even a week had gone by and he was gone. I have not and will never buy another Whitney song. I get so sick of reading how intelligent,strong and couragous she is. If that were true she wouldn't be where she is now.She knew what drugs could do, the hypocrite even did a drug ad years agoJUST SAY NOsimple as that. Now she's well known for Crack is Whack. This is a woman who could have went out in a blaze of glory, but she is choosing to crash and burn if she doesn't put on the brakes.
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Whitney does care about her fans. she has thanked her fans numerous times for all of the prayers and support we've given her. I'm so glad she's leaving him, this gives her a fresh start. I'm not blaming her drug problems on bobby but he is a bad influence on her and now she's realizing that.