ann rule would b fascinating 2 interview

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The Truth is I don't agree 5b4with his statement that it was his exposure to violent pornography that caused him to kill. It seems that was his last ditch effort to save himself and he took it to try to make himselg gain sympthoy from everyone.

thinking his mom was his sister probaly didn't help matters
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-Tim J.-

Interesting thread here. I also agree that Bundy was one of the most fascinating serial killers. He may not have been brilliant, but he had something better than smarts, and that was charisma. He used his natural good looks and charm to fool many people for many years.
As an interesting side note, it has recently been proven beyond a doubt that Bundy in fact did NOT kill Kathy Devine in 1973 as previously suspected. DNA evidence links her slaying to William Cosden Jr., who was seen at a truck stop not far from where Kathy disappeared. This appears to be one of the rare instances in which Bundy told the truth. He had always denied being involved in the Devine murder, and he reiterated this when Bob Keppel asked him about it in 1989, just days before his execution. Strangely enough, he told the truth on that16d0 one.
I think the Devine case proves that it is really tough to know which of the unsolved murders Ted was really responsible for and those that he actually didn't do. In those final days, he was probably the most honest that he'd ever been in his whole life he had nothing to lose at that point and everything to gain (postponing his death) by being straight with Keppel and the other invesitgators. It was in these last minute sessions that he also denied murdering Ann Marie Burr. Keppel theorizes that he (Bundy) denied it because he was afraid, if his execution were postponed again, that he'd have to go back to prison with the reputation of being a "baby killer." This may be true, but wasn't Bundy already known to have killed 12-year-old Kimberly Leach? Wouldn't he already have had the "baby killer" rep at Raiford Prison? It makes you wonder about his denial in the Burr case. Was he in fact telling the truth at this point? Sadly, we'll probably never know.
I think Bundy's situation is still looked upon by many as one of the biggest wastes of human potential in modern history. So many people are just not blessed with many of the natural gifts that Ted had brains, looks, charm, good health, education, friends, and a great chance to be both personally and financially successful in life. He took it all and threw it all away. In addition to the poor girls he killed and their families, I feel most sorry for his longtime girlfriend Liz Kendall, and his mother. Neither could see the monster that was right in front of them. These two women genuinely loved Ted Bundy. The emotional scars of his betrayal and the guilt they feel must never go away.

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Ted says him self "3 figures"
I beleive that

Very interesting post. I definitely agree with the last part of your post.
"Ted Bundy is easily the most interesting serial killer of our time, simply because he coined the term, but also because he was the exact opposite on the outside of everything he was on the inside. "
He fascinates me most of all the serial killers I've read or heard about.
I also agree that there must have been more victims than the amount that Bundy was suspected of killing.
I think it's possible he did kill Ann Marie Burr and many others we don't know about. Bundy took many secrets to his grave.

One is not born evil. I believe that when people are born they are not good or evil; they are more like a "clean slate." I agree that it is not an innate or instinctual thing. I don't think at all that Ted Bundy was destined to be evil or evil from the day he was born or anything like that. He was a product of his environment. I've read that his father was an alcoholic and that he lived with his maternal grandfather who, according to some family members, was mentally unstable and prone to violence. (I read this on wikipedia, not sure it's true.) I think that it is these types of problems that affected him psychologically. I do not know a lot about him or his home life in his childhood so I won't say that I know one-hundred percent that his life at home is what caused him to be a sadistic person; this is just my assumption.~

I'll agree with this the whole 'born evil' statement is fairly ridiculous. It's not an innate thing. It makes a whole lot more sense that after so much rejection in his life it just set him off. I am HIGHLY doubtful of claims that he murdered while still in his teens.

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Your old boss was Richard Souviron??
"Actually sir, he was hired under Project Bootstrap.
Thank you, President Ford."

Jeffrey Dahmer also needed alcohol to act out his final murders. He would bind up someone and drug them and beat them over the head, but to do the actual murder usually he needed to be drunk. Unfortunately for America, he was drunk a lot of the time.
My father is friends with a lady who went to law school with Ted Bundy. She knew him, and he would walk her to her car every night to make sure she was okay. But she wasn't his "type." She was older, overweight, not blonde. So it's weird. Would he have killed someone like her if there were no blondes in that city? Who knows? My old boss was the forensics expert who matched the bite mark on one of his victims to his dental records, which finally convinced the jury of his guilt and to give him the chair.
Obviously Bundy was more intelligent than most people, but it's unlikely that there will never be someone smarter or luckier than he was in the future.

That is possibly one of the more intelligent posts about Bundy that I've come across. I have no idea why people think the killings stopped at 36 when he stopped confessing. He was born evil and probably started killing in his teens. I, like Ann Rule, also believe his first victim was Ann Marie Burr, when he was 15.
What's scary about serial killers is that any little thing can set them off. Bad day at work. A fight with a significant other or family member. Anything. Bundy was kind of a special case, he would indulge in his fantasies and then with the help of alcohol he would act them out. Not saying he needed alcohol all the time, but in the Pensacola "fantasy" tapes when he was captured he pretty much stated that he had problems controlling his fantasies & alcohol would just make it worse. And many serial killers aren't satisfied with thinking of depraved visions, they must actually go out and act on them. I read about it in the A-Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers. It's actually very informative about what makes a killer and how they achieve gratification. Highly recommend it.
And yes, I agree, the serial killers that walk around today are much more intelligent and look like normal people.
"Actually sir, he was hired under Project Bootstrap.
Thank you, President Ford."

I1c84 totally agree. Especially with your last statement. It sums up the whole idea that Serial killers of today are much more intelligent and perceived as normal members of society in many cases. Which is a big cause for concern for modern age serial killers and what sets them off.