I think Kermit ruined the Rainbow Connection.

How is Cher not an icon? She paved the way, she started wearing crazy outfits before Madonna and she has inspired pop culture, she has classics, it's true her carreer was really inconsistent, it was full of ups and downs, but she managed to survive the years even with several flops, she had her biggest hit when she was in her 50s, she's the only musical act to have a number-one single on a Billboard chart in each of the last six decades, she was the first big musical act to use autotune on her songs and it became known as the Cher effect for some time, she's also 1 award away from EGOT status, she influenced Madonna, Celine, Britney, Xtina, Gaga.
Making EDM a trend in the US
How so? Madonna explored EDM music in the 90s with mega sucessful albums, Guetta an111cd Benassi were already around and had big hits before Gaga, JT did it in FutureSexLoveSounds, Britney explored it on Blackout and did the same on Circus and Femme Fatale, the latter was released 13 years on her carreer and was a sucess with 2 top 5 singles unlike some singers that fell after their sophomore albums.
Gaga is a bigger pop icon than Katy, but being bigger than Katy doesn't mean Katy isn't a pop icon too(a small one, but anyway).
The crazy outfits and the fanbase name
The fanbase name yes, but the crazy outfits no, Bowie did that, Cher did that, Madonna did that, Lil Kim did that, all before Gaga, stop acting like Gaga was the first one to do it.
"I feel you, pretty baby, feel me
Turn it up hot, lovin' you is free"

Katy is untalented and useless but you can't deny that she's a pop icon at this point.
How is Katy Perry a pop icon? Because she hasn't flopped with an album yet? She released THREE, take a chill pill. There's someone called Cher who was a pop icon even though she kept flopping. It's the impact that counts, something Katy does NOT have. WTF is Katy's impact? That you should never use dancing sharks during any live performance? Yeeehaaa, how impactful!
Gaga is a bigger pop icon based on her peak alone. Making EDM a trend in the US, the meat dress and every artist having a name for their fanbase. That's impact. The crazy outfits and the fanbase name is something Katy did because Gaga did it first. That alone makes Gaga the bigger pop icon than freaking Katy Perry.
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Why are the Rihanna stans bringing up "Diamonds" as if that song is iconic in any way, shape, or form?
It being the best-selling digital song by a black female artist of all time makes it iconic since it literally made history. I'm not even gonna get into the fact that you think Gaga is even remotely a Beyonce. Gaga is Cyndi Lauper 2.0. Katy is untalented and useless but you can't deny that she's a pop icon at this point.
Just because I can't kiss back, doesn't mean you can't kiss that.

Firework and Hot N Cold are, Teenage Dream is the most forgotten TD single, Roar is on the way to be iconic.
Unlike Gaga, rihanna's risks pay off.
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Turn it up hot, lovin' you is free"

WAIT, I didn't even see that
"Teenage Dream" is nowhere CLOSE to being an iconic song
It's one of the most forgotten singles from that album
Here's to the mess we make.

Roar is ICONIC?! You mean the song that's a total ripoff of Brave by Sara Bareilles?
We can do this all day. There's nothing Katy has that Gaga doesn't, both negative and positive.
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BORN THIS WAY ICONIC?????
Lmao you mean the song people know as the express yourself rip off? Iconic? Good one!
Previously known as college dropout kid.

If you think Teenage Dream, Fireworks and I forgot the last song you mention.. are more iconic than Poker Face, Bad Romance and Born This Way you sure as hell are delusional.
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A trend chasing singles artist that has more iconic and well known songs than your faveLOL. Stay bitter.
Previously known as college dropout kid.

Katy has teenage dream, firework and Roar
You're beyond delusional. None of those songs are iconic, but you stan for a trend-chasing singles artist, so that makes sense
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6 out of 10 knew the song, all of them knew who Xtina was. The song scored like the third highest from all the songs in that video. Claiming it's not iconic is stupid.
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LMFAO More people know of Radiohead than Xtine but then again Radiohead are almost legends and floptine is a nostalgia act.

It is tea that people don't remember "Genie".
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Even the kids who DO know the song think it's Britney
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Cherry I'm starting to question your taste or word on things. You're the same person who said nobody remembers Genie in the bottle and now Diamonds isn't iconic.
Interesting.

Haha obviously I've left you without anything to say. It's ok.
And yes, I stand by what I say, Idk anything about Bruno Mars maybe you bitter hoes are right, but if that's the case then he's also bigger than Gaga.
Previously known as college dropout kid.

Didn't you try to say Katy was bigger than Bruno Mars? I'm not here for your inaccurate assessments of Gaga's status.
Here's to the mess we make.

Lmao ok so Rihanna follows the uber successful Charli xcx. Got it.
If you made any sense at all though you'd know that Rihanna has never left Caribbean influenced music, all of her albums always have a song or two, hell she has even released them as SINGLES (Rudeboy) but yes, let's pretend Rihanna hadn't done any Caribbean tunes since her debut til last year with the massive number one hit Work
Also dead at you putting Beyonce and Gaga on the same league, they are NOT and never will be. Beyonce is a legend by now, Gaga sank by album 3 and is struggling to make album 4 happen. Get out here. The only cyndi of her generation truly is Gaga, a talented odd girl with some early hits and crazy style but nothing else. She won't be embraced by future generations because her music is just not memorable and she is NOT current, unlike the other girls who continue to score big hit after big hit, thus remaining popular with today's (and tomorrow's) audience.
Previously known as college dropout kid.

Neither Diamonds nor anything released as of late qualifies as chasing trends.
"Work" very blatantly cashed in on an island music trend that has been bubbling in pop music for quite some time. Even several years ago, Charli XCX one of the most prolific songwriters in the game said she believed reggae was going to be the next big thing since producers were fixated on it. Why isn't it surprising to me, then, that Rihanna dusted off her
Music of the Sun
boots to cash in on it?
But you are right tho, she is the KATY to Beyonce's Gaga, more hits and more iconic songs. Katy has teenage dream, firework and Roar where Gaga barely saves face with Bad romance
Yet Gaga and Beyonc will be remembered as the icons of their generation, while Katy and Rihanna will have to settle for being the Tiffanys and the Cyndis.
Here's to the mess we make.

You make no sense. Neither Diamonds nor anything released as of late qualifies as chasing trends. Unlike Gaga, rihanna's risks pay off.
But you are right tho, she is the KATY to Beyonce's Gaga, more hits and more iconic songs. Katy has teenage dream, firework and Roar where Gaga barely saves face with Bad romance
Previously known as college dropout kid.

Why are the Rihanna stans bringing up "Diamonds" as if that song is iconic in any way, shape, or form?
The answer is that Rihanna chases trends while Beyonc simply makes classics. She is truly the Katy to Beyonc's Gaga.
Here's to the mess we make.

Sorry forgot that one, they both have 3 iconic songs, but by logic Rihi should have more cause she got more hits.
"I feel you, pretty baby, feel me
Turn it up hot, lovin' you is free"

Screaming at you leaving out the best-selling digital song of all time by a black female artist aka DIAMONDS. Mess.

Halo is the most streamed song of the 2000s, 1990s and 1980s. Sit your ass down.
It's also one of the most covered songs on talent shows in the world. Literally every season of every talent show in every country has at least one contestant performing it.
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