Abrams has nothing to Joss!

"I find I can enjoy Abrams works very easily, but often i find there is a certain sterile atmosphere in his work that makes it hard for me to connect with."
" I find the characters in his films can be hard to connect with and understand."
I'd never thought of that before but I totally agree with you.
There's generally more warmth and/or passion in Whedon's stuff.

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I think it's am interesting one. I find I can enjoy Abrams works very easily, but often i find there is a certain sterile atmosphere in his work that makes it hard for me to connect with. I think he is better on television than on film, I find the characters in his films can be hard to connect with and understand.
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It's kind of an odd comparison I feel, Whedon develops shows and stays on them and writes them for the entirety of their run in a more writer-fashion, Abrams is a more producer type who conceptualizes and then hands it off entirely to others. His name is on a lot of projects that he doesn't have a huge influence on. Beyond the first two episodes of Lost, he didn't write much of that show, if any. I think the only show he stayed on and wrote was Felicity and Alias.

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I really like both I think I'll have to go with Whedon because he comes off like his own person and takes more time to deliver a more worthwhile project. Abrams these days seems to be trying to channel Spielberg as much as possible. I don't think we would see a show like Alias or Felicity from him in this day and age, it's all about being big with him. Oh, and lots of lens flares to boot.
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No need for me to enter this conversation because you just said everything I would have said (although maybe not word-for-word).

Nah, I actually prefer Abrams wasting his time with this commercialized Disney Star Wars.
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Whedon wins. Pants down. No contest.
Really wish he was doing Star Wars. Abrams doesn't need to be doing both Star Trek and Star Wars. He kinda effed up with Into Darkness imo. Boring ass movie.

While they are both fans of cult media, Abrams is a hack & very superficial.
Joss only
seems
superficial.

Ooooppss you are right, I misunderstood it. Anyway, I don't think Joss' wrote much of Toy Story.

he didn't say toy story was bad. He said that JJ Abrams wrote a bunch of bad movies that were worse then Whedon's efforts i.e. Toy Story and Titan A.E.. That was in favor of Joss Whedon.

And Abrams left most of "his" TV shows on someone else's hands. Alcatraz? LOL
Toy Story is a bad film? No, and Joss Whedon was only one of the writers.
That list is crap.

Your list is just stupid.
For example, Whedon did NOT write Alien 4. His script was completely discarded.
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Well, lets compare things they made pretty the same time in life:
Wrote some bad films < Titan AE, Toy Story and such
Armageddon = Alien 4
Felicity < Buffy
Alias < Firefly
Mission Impossible III > Angel (Making a huge blockbuster, even though it is worse than Angel in entertainment quality, I think it is a statement of status)
Lost > Serenity Movie
Fringe > Dollhouse
Cloverfield + first Star Trek > Cabin In The Woods (only wrote script)
Super 8 >5b4 He did not really do anything, was preperaing for Avengers flick
Alcatraz-series < Avengers-movie
Star Trek II > Much Ado About Nothing
Person of interest, Revolution ? Avengers-Tv series If i may guess probably whedon but lets leave it unsaid
Star Wars 7 > Avengers II (yeah, Avengers might be great comic-adaption, but getting the honor to direct Star Wars wins.
Overall its pretty tight, but in total: 3p advantage to Abrams (7-4).
However if you would have asked the same thing before Lost, Whedon would have kicked Abrams as. Avengers and his latest film is on the right track. But that dry period from ~2005-2011, there is really no competition. Abrams been more productive and creative during those years.
You could flip-flop the comparisons, but I find the conclusion the same:
Whedon better before 2005
Abrams better until 2011
Pretty much equal 2012-2013
And I guess the fair decider would be SW7 vs Avenger 2.
Currently, by a small margin, I find Abrams better. Mostly due to the dry-period of Mr Whedon during the 2005-2011 period.
I know this is a Whedon board. And there is a lot of his fans here. I like both, and this is my way to look on it!

Abrams is a very talented writer, creator and director, but let's face it: Joss Whedon is God, which is funny with him being an atheist and all.

I'm going with joss.. The guy is just entertainment gold

You are somewhat correct. There is no connection between talent and criticism skills, true. It is in communicating criticism to others where writing becomes important. However, reading your original post now, I don't understand my original intent in criticizing your writing ability, your writing is clear and effective. I must have a few beers in me. I apologize for the uncalled for insult.

Why would that matter ? I dont claim to be a writer in the first place.
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The only actually somewhat original, actually memorable quotes there are these original Star Trek quotes like "I'm a doctor, not a physicist!" from Bones or Spocks typical "Fascinating" etc.
He's certainly a better writer than you are.

Cant say much about Abrams.
I only watched his Star Trek movie, and I absolutely hate it with a passion. Awful in every respect except for the most of1c84 the actors, which are actually excellent, except the one for Kirk, the maybe worst overacted character I've ever seen anywhere. And I guess I might actually have liked the flashy effects if the story and dialogues would have been worth anything.
About the dialogue, just check out the "memorable quotes" page here at IMDB for that movie. The only actually somewhat original, actually memorable quotes there are these original Star Trek quotes like "I'm a doctor, not a physicist!" from Bones or Spocks typical "Fascinating" etc. Otherwise a lot of stupid dialogue that is anything but memorable. No good jokes or oneliners anywhere.
Havent watched anything else from Abrams, so
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"Hopefully Star Wars will be his first."
I was thinking that too. I meant to mention it in my previous post, but forgot.
I hope I'm not wrong about this, but I have a very strong feeling that SW7 will be much better than the prequels.
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Interesting. Now that you mention it, my feeling is that JJ repeatedly falls short (or just short) of greatness. I loved Super 8, but I think I've liked most of Joss' movies better.
definitively agree with this. All his movies are decent to good that I've seen. He just hasn't made a great one yet. Hopefully Star Wars will be his first.