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<p dir="auto"><strong>MCDRLx</strong> — <em>16 years ago(May 04, 2009 04:04 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">In all honesty, Zhang Ziyi is incredibly overrated. Out of the so-called "Four Flowers" (according to the press and popular consensus, the four most prominent young actresses working in China, including Xu Jinglei, Zhao Wei, and Zhou Xun) Zhang's acting is by FAR the most subpar. I agree with what one of the posters said - her best performance remains her first one, and she's done absolutely nothing to expand on her skills after that. Pretty pathetic.<br />
Bu comparison, Xu Jinglei directs, writes, and acts in her own films (2004's "Letter from an Unknown Woman"); Zhou Xun has amazed in films like "Suzhou River," "Beijing Bicycle," and "The Equation of Love and Death"; Zhao Wei has created a unique perso1c84na for herself as well, playing assertive roles in films like "Warriors of Heaven and Earth" and John Woo's "Red Cliff."<br />
Also, Tang Wei's performance in "Lust, Caution" was miles more courageous and intricate than anything Zhang's ever done. There's absolutely no comparison.<br />
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<p dir="auto">ziyi can do both action and acting . i still think li gong is a better actress but ziyi is great also .</p>
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<p dir="auto">Whoever think she is primarily an action star or that she is not a pure acting actress actress like Gong Li is wrong.<br />
Her first movie was pure drama acting by the same director who put Gong Li up. She did so well in it and caught Ang Lee's attention. In fact, she did more drama roles than actions and in 2 movies that she shared with Gong Li as her supporting actress, she proved to be better than Gong Li.<br />
Gong Li just cannot act in actions, so making her another level below compared to her.</p>
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<p dir="auto">More evidence of jealousy.</p>
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<p dir="auto">repeating such hateful thoughts toward such a beautiful and fabulously talented person is a great sin.<br />
Can someone erase this line of hate speech?</p>
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<p dir="auto">She's currently involved in a defamation lawsuit against a Chinese-American journalist in California.<br />
<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121226/02365121484/chinese-star-hollywood-films-accused-trying-to-slapp-down-american-based-journalist.shtml" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121226/02365121484/chinese-star-hollywood-films-accused-trying-to-slapp-down-american-based-journalist.shtml</a></p>
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<p dir="auto">oh well</p>
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<p dir="auto">I think MJ^ is right. People are always going to have tall poppy syndrome and try to verbally cut those who are doing well down.<br />
It's so true - a lot of Chinese actresses who are in her situation would take those opportunities. I recently recall a celebrity blogger who made a post about ZZ's recent scandal in China, and she was saying that some people view actresses and entertainers as whores in China. (She wrote it from an Asian-American perspective). Probably especially older generations. It is probably a combination of jealousy and cultural norm to think that women who dress up, parade themselves around or take any sort of pride in their appearance (let alone use their appearance to make money) are bitches.<br />
Either way, ZZ is a hot bitch. If I were her I would say 'f y'all' and keep on rolling.</p>
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<p dir="auto">The simple answer is jealousy.<br />
A lot of chinese will contest that, and understandably so.  I don't entirely agree with her lifestyle and decisions, but the funny thing is that IMO a lot of the same chinese who hate her and criticize her will probably do the same thing if given the opportunity.  someone mentioned that she relied a lot more on luck in her career than talent, and to some extent that is true.  The thing about Ziyi is that she was primarily an action star, not a pure acting artist like Gong Li.  She knows that there arent too many opportunities in life especially in her field, so she took it.  Call her a 2000gold digger, whore, whatever.  At least she is successful now.<br />
She and Gong Li are totally different kinds of actresses, there is no way to compare.  The only reason they are mentioned in the same breath is because they are two of the most famous/popular in westerners' eyes.  Some prefer the classy beauty of Gong li, some like the ass-kicking, more direct kind of hotness they see in Ziyi.<br />
I don't think Ziyi has sold herself or her people out at all.  if anything i am more disappointed in some of Jackie Chan's older US movies, where he acts like a total clown.  Btw alot of Ziyi fans here think she's perfect, great, happy to see that, though i have seen more beautiful women and actresses in China, it's just the language barrier that is holding them back from going overseas.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Forbes magazine's "China edition" recently ranked her the second most popular celebrity after NBA player Ming Yao [August 2004].<br />
Just sayin'<br />
There are no problems that cannot be solved with a can of brake clean and a lighter</p>
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<p dir="auto">i'm am not chinese, but i have seen many films from this country, and i consider ZZ quite talented and the most beautiful chinese actress and this is all that matters, not her particular life,,,,,  not so beautiful, but good actress, i consider Wei Zhao and Xun Zhou<br />
"It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is progress!"</p>
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<p dir="auto">It is just too hard to believe so. Ziyi would rather to let the scandal go and loose commercial opportunities. How much time does it cost for a charity to show account book? Isn't it should be ready to shown at anytime?</p>
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<p dir="auto">She has not shown public yet? That's got to be a record.</p>
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<p dir="auto">don't even show up in public since the "hiding charity money" scandal started.</p>
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<p dir="auto">and vigorous.<br />
Maybe they will bless us with another daughter.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Are her parents still alive?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Ho is relative</p>
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<p dir="auto">a ho?</p>
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<p dir="auto">The Chinese detest her because she's a whore.<br />
O_o</p>
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<p dir="auto">CPO netherlands you are right!</p>
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