and his family.
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

Starting with most of you assholes on here. That's for certain.
Donna is the only member of filmboards that nimda punished for wanting to leave.

If, that happens.
Starting with Trump!
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

She will. And when that happens we can throw all perverted child predators like her in prison.
Donna is the only member of filmboards that nimda punished for wanting to leave.

I dont disagree.
But will she?
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

Sorry but I hate the bitch. She gotta go.
Donna is the only member of filmboards that nimda punished for wanting to leave.

Not guilty, with a title in feminism, and a degree in Stripping.
Like we all mgtowers say.
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

ToastedCheese said...
Art imitates life and many things that have been portrayed in films have been somewhat portentous.
I found it slightly TOO coincidental.

CorNelley said...
That is exactly what this is about. I do not think it is a coincidence who her Daddy is. DId you see he was inspiration for a villian in a James Bond movie?
Elliot Carver. THis is the synopsis of the character:
Elliot Carver is the main antagonist in the 1997 James Bond film Tomorrow Never Dies. He is the ruthless CEO of the Carver Media Group Network who plots to ignite a war between the United Kingdom and China in order to destroy the Chinese government and use the new government to obtain exclusive broadcasting rights in China.
Read that again and tell me it is no coincidence
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Art imitates life and many things that have been portrayed in films have been somewhat portentous.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

ToastedCheese said...
This is what I am seeing more and more of now, those in political favor and power have strong family connections to other big elitist corporations and rules that apply to the plebs, don't apply to them.
This is has become about a circus now.
That is exactly what this is about. I do not think it is a coincidence who her Daddy is. DId you see he was inspiration for a villian in a James Bond movie?
Elliot Carver. THis is the synopsis of the character:
Elliot Carver is the main antagonist in the 1997 James Bond film Tomorrow Never Dies. He is the ruthless CEO of the Carver Media Group Network who plots to ignite a war between the United Kingdom and China in order to destroy the Chinese government and use the new government to obtain exclusive broadcasting rights in China.
Read that again and tell me it is no coincidence

CorNelley said...
Precisely. This is ALL just an act to appease people. This is her Daddy. ALthough he is passed, he owned media etc. He was a suspected spy. He has high up people. Nothing will happen to her other than a little slap, if that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell
This is what I am seeing more and more of now, those in political favor and power have strong family connections to other big elitist corporations and rules that apply to the plebs, don't apply to them.
This is has become about a circus now.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

Precisely. This is ALL just an act to appease people. This is her Daddy. ALthough he is passed, he owned media etc. He was a suspected spy. He has high up people. Nothing will happen to her other than a little slap, if that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell

The smaller fry will take the fall to save face and have some implications.
Maxwell, while smeared, will more than likely come away largely unscathed and with heavier pockets.
She can then dash of to get some plastic surgery, change her name and live on her own private island with constant protection to make sure she doesn't decide to blab at any stage.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

I am confident the bottom of this will never be touched. We are gonna get a lot of "I don't recall' etc. NOTHING will be found out. I am guessing there will be other smaller fish for them to fry but it won't be the real creeps.

It will be the snowball effect and with the information Maxwell possesses, she will be bribed to keep gagged.
I'm not so confident the bottom of this will ever be found, it will be surface skimming only.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

Of for sure gag orders. Nothing will happen to them or it would have already happened. THere are high up people and names involved. If each of them gave her $1,000,000 she will be a billionaire. I could do a few months in a posh jail for billions

I'd say gag contracts and back to the elite and where big names will be implicated like PA, then its not going to wash for them as well. They get protection by their own laws, rules and regulations.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

Whatever they did to get rid of Epstein was not enough. They can't go after the elite men and women that committed the actual crimes, so it has to be her. She is not innocent but she also should not be taking the blunt of the fall. I am sure she will be compensated in some form.
Personally, I think they will say time served. Or get her on some smaller thing. I want to know why valets, pilots, maids etc aren't being held accountable.

Yes, kids are impressionable, even teens, but some DO know what they are doing like Samantha Geimer, but her mother groomed her and she gets away scot free.
If Maxwell has made a deal, I wonder what? It this gets publicized and the verdict isn't satisfactory, then it has to expose the bullshite.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

I could see his death being faked. He knew far too much. EVERYTHING about his death is wonky, wonky…. WONKY.
I do agree MUCH of this is to distract from finding out what has really been going on with the elite. Where there is smoke, there is fire. All the names check the list too. I just don't think putting it on these girls. I feel they were groomed for all of it. Typically, these idiots prey on the kids that are easy to snare, older boyfriends included.
Besides the girls not being victims, I agree with the rest. I do think Ghislaine knew and helped. If that is true, she needs some form of punishment.

Yes, I agree if as young as 14, but these are also issues with the privileged elite and like you say just for show. We have to ask as well, how damaged are these individuals too from their experience?
Polanski's 13yr old "victim" as reported, never herself felt like a victim and has claimed as such over and over again. She knew what she was doing and it wasn't her first time with adult men she had lied too. Not to mention her 19yr old bf she had at the time.
It is non-news really for me and Epstein is "allegedly" dead, (rumors of faking), and life offers experiences and opportunities that may not seem appropriate or appear moral, but this won't and can't EVER be curbed. Especially when the mechanisms of corruption from the top are involved.
Its all just an ideal ruse and diversion again to distract the herd from looking at what is really going on in the echelons of the dominating uber-wealthy. CV19 is another example.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

I am not sure about a scapegoat as much as trying to figure out what really happened. Some of the girls were younger, like 14 or so. I do believe there is sexual abuse going on and Epstein was found guilty in 2008. I think she knew what was going on.
My niece got involved with a lot of bad **** 10 years ago and it was started with a woman she trusted. I try to not let my experience with that muddle my thoughts on it. I do not think this woman is clueless.
What I do find interesting is she allowed them to finally catch her after so long. I think she already struck a deal and this is all for show to 'end' it.

I haven't extensively followed this case and not that interested, but I see Maxwell as being used as a scapegoat.
Its just convenient due to era context for these girls to start up with their agenda now. They knew what they were doing at the time and would have been handsomely rewarded for their participation.
I am not concerned so much about the feelings of 17yr old tramps, who by many technical accounts were still legal and would have more than likely been prideful and boastful too about their experiences at the time.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?

Do you think she is innocent in all of this? I like waiting to make a judgement. Innocent until proven etc. Although, I feel this woman knew what was going on, if not helped.