People who often go around telling people they are nice usually aren't. On the contrary they tend to be sociopathic or have anger issues. In the latter case it's clearly denial.
Very correct! And before it is said, I never claim to be nice.
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

Didn't she fire a guitarist on stage? Rather unprofessional if you ask me. I guess one thing they don't teach on American Idol is that you do business off stage.
I'm not suprised no one wants to work with her. Other than that one country guy who was likely coerced into it by the record company at the dawn of the breakout period of his career. In a way you can compare to the Beatles Pete Best/Ringo scenario.
I feel like I'm a very nice person that you might want to sing with me.
People who often go around telling people they are nice usually aren't. On the contrary they tend to be sociopathic or have anger issues. In the latter case it's clearly denial.
I don't know about you guys but I'd rather be in the studio with a sociopath then a prima donna with anger issues.

hahaha

I swear, Clarkson hatred is an actual addiction for you, isn't it?

I ask good people, I don't want to sing with crap people
I think this is the most telling quote. She seems to have a hard time finding people who are good enough for her.
And. After the issues with Clive Davis and Ryan Tedder. Yeah, there is a reason that no one wants to work with her.
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/837131-Kelly-Clarkson-I-Fe el-Like-I-Have-the-Plague-or-Leprosy-Because-No-One-Will-Work-With-Me

The ones that take themselves too seriously become rather insufferable.
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

This applies to all pop stars tbh.

That's how it is though with some artists. I've seen where people though Gaga invented the "awkward unique style". Bjork did it way before Gaga.

Lorde isn't all that bad but she isn't unique so I am in agreement there.
I saw a review comparing her to Nirvana as she was leading a new way that is an "alternative" to the common airplay. The irony of that is, Nirvana wasn't unique as there were many other doing alternative or grunge (depending on how you want to think about it) at the time. It was more of who from Seattle broke on a national level first or that has always been my take.
What if Alice in Chain's Man in the Box had hit first?
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

Anyway, it's refreshing to see a new young artist such as Lorde come on the scene and have success. Maybe she will start a pop music trend back in the right direction.
To me Lorde is not all that different from mainstream. When I think of someone with different sounds it more like Imegan Heap, Lykke Li, Lia ices or Fiona Apple new cd.
Here are there songs if you don't know their music.
Imegan Heap:
Lykke Li :
Lia ices:
Fiona Apple new cd:

Very nice and well composed post
art-snob
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

Sorry if I offended you EdZeppelin. I was simply sharing my opinion b68on how Kelly Clarkson encompasses the sad state that popular music is in today. I wanted to come back to this thread that spawned a discussion over many months to reiterate my points.
If you are a fan of KC (or perhaps work for her label) then by all means enjoy her stale, formulaic music and don't listen to the opinions of those that actually care about any of the qualities that makes music interesting and original. I can understand if it bothers you that others insult something you enjoy. I just can't understand how someone can enjoy a catalog of songs from the same artist that re-use the same formula over and over, but I guess that's the difference between us. It just makes me sad that you and so many others are willing to accept the sad state of music that popular music is in today, rehashing the same meaningless, banal gibberish-laced lyrics and the same simple chord progressions and melodies that I would expect most five year-olds would become bored with in a short matter of time.
Anyway, I'm not sure who is the troll here since all you did on your post is rant about my posts with no specific reason except to sound like a whiny, belligerent jerk. You didn't express any opinion about the topic whatsoever so what is your point of posting here? If you don't like the topic then butt out.. troll!

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A troll talking about growing up. A troll who has celebrity worship syndrome. A troll who supports rape = SFMAR

Odd words from one who can't grow up.

I guess she replied to you
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

She will never let it be because she has OCD

The girl just can't let it be.
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

Once again you pounce on another user
SFMAR HAS CELEBRITY WORSHIP SYNDROME BIG TIME

Since you determine what I post second hand as filtered through your fellow troll you only embarrass yourself with such irrelevant and immature responses.

For someone who claims to not be a fan, she really loses it when anyone doesn't hit their knees for Clarkson.
Some people count sheep. Doesn't work with Bryan, just gets him excited ~ John-Redcorn

OF COURSE SFMAR DISAGREES SHOCKING

Fair enough - I see your point and I respect your opinion although I do disagree with you, at least in part.
The entertainment industry (music, TV, film) has indeed been on a downward slide for quite some time now and originality has all but disappeared.
In terms of music, I think this trend began far earlier than you believe. While it was a unique and fresh medium at the time, MTV, in my opinion, started out well, but gradually the flashy videos and sexuality of the performers became more important than the music itself. Needless to say the quality of the material suffered as the buying public became more infatuated with what a hunk or a fox the performer was instead of how talented they were (or weren't).
In that regard I don't see American Idol (and Clarkson) creating this trend. To me it's just the opposite - the trend was already well established and American Idol was created in response to it.
Your other observations are right on the mark. Artists today have less and less control over how their material is presented and produced by the industry. But on the other hand even the Beatles were at times frustrated when studio engineers remixed their music. True, this trend is far more evident today, but it was always there.
Clarkson has a good voice and genuine talent. Could she use it better? Perhaps. But while she may be caught up in music's current lack of creativity she certainly didn't initiate or establish it.