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<p dir="auto"><strong>mercury4</strong> — <em>12 years ago(April 16, 2013 11:30 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I say El Cid. I thought it was way better. Too bad Kirk Douglas got Anthony Mann fired from Spartacus. Nothing against Kubrick, but I sometimes wonder how Mann would have done if he was given the chance to do Spartacus. He did an amazing job on El Cid. I believe he would've done great. Better than Kubrick? I don't know. But Anthony Mann is the man who directed El Cid, which is in my opinion, one of the greatest epics ever made.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Spartacus albeit I rank Heston higher than Douglas.<br />
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]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1504017</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1504017</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:47:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to El Cid or Spartacus? on Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:47:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>graniitti</strong> — <em>11 years ago(November 15, 2014 06:30 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I can not find a flaw in it. Score is magical. Leading actors are superb giving unsurpassed, best performance of bnoth careers. But every single role is well acted.<br />
Multiple scenes are cinematic marvels as stand alones.<br />
This movie ends with such use of space and time. Breathtaking!<br />
There is no question that the themes of ethics and philosophy carry the actions and performances of the actors.<br />
With this story and script. nothing has gone a foul.<br />
Cinematography, set piees, historical facts, emotion,philosophy, all<br />
It is all there. All in balance. All in perfection. And all very humbly serving the story.<br />
If there is a film a master can learn from: This is The Film.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1504016</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1504016</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:47:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to El Cid or Spartacus? on Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:47:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>octagonproplex</strong> — <em>11 years ago(September 14, 2014 08:24 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Of course Kubrick is brilliant. at making Kubrick movies  problem is<br />
Spartacus<br />
is not a "Kubrick Movie", he was simply hired as essentially a quick-fix replacement journeyman (or hack), which is primarily why Kubrick himself never took ownership for his work on<br />
Spartacus<br />
and did not consider it one of his films.<br />
I personally do not think<br />
Spartacus<br />
is great, it's good but it's lacking in emotion (never Kubrick's strong suit). Before ever realizing it, I always wondered why the opening of<br />
Spartacus<br />
was shot with such grand sweeping romanticism befitting the breath of scope one would desire for such an epic tale, while the rest of the film is composed of clinically cold (and rather boring) static framing  of course I later found out it is because the opening was from Anthony Mann's original helming before being unceremoniously dismissed by egomaniac star-producer Kirk Douglas.<br />
Kubrick is undoubtedly one of the great genius auteurs of cinema, but doing rousing historical spectacles is Anthony Mann's bread &amp; butter! Let's not suggest Mann would have made a better<br />
2001: A Space Odyssey<br />
nor suggest Kubrick made a better<br />
Spartacus<br />
than Mann would have  because the proof is clearly evident against both arguments. Anthony Mann is simply far better at this type of film than Kubrick. The evidence is deftly on display in just the opening footage as envisioned by Mann for<br />
Spartacus<br />
. But look for no further proof than<br />
El Cid<br />
, because it's superiority is (to me  of course) unquestionable.<br />
I personally believe<br />
Spartacus<br />
's retroactive reverence within the quasi-cinephile zeitgeist is mainly because Kubrick's name is attached and it's become pop-hipster-cool to glibly revision it as a classic based more on status affectation rather than actual merit. I'm not saying<br />
Spartacus<br />
is a bad movie  it's not  it's certainly worthy of watching and crafted adequately but what I am saying is that<br />
El Cid<br />
is mind-blowingly great, and anyone that doesn't know that, doesn't know much!<br />
Everything<br />
Spartacus<br />
lacks is<br />
El Cid<br />
's gain! Anthony Mann owns! Believe that!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Although "Spartacus" is also one of my favourite epics,I like "El Cid" infinitely more. Visually it looks much better and the real locations make it more spectacular, while "Spartacus" was shot mostly at the Universal facilities in Hollywood and that shows in the screen. Also, "El Cid" is benefited with a much more stylish and dynamic direction, while "Spartacus" often looks like filmed theatre. Kubrick had very little artistic freedom and it was Douglas who decided what to do and how, and that shows in the film. Besides, Kubrick was a fish out of water in the epic genre; it didn't go well with his usual style of long static takes with people talking for ages, and slow tracking shots.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Spartacus</p>
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<p dir="auto">I can't and don't want to choose.  As my way of copping out of this however, I will give it to "Spartacus" because it hasn't gotten a single vote yet.  Though I would also be tempted to give it to "El Cid" based on the fact that it is criminally underrated.</p>
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<p dir="auto">El Cid<br />
"I think we've out-sophisticated ourselves out of some of the pleasures of movies."</p>
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<p dir="auto">El Cid by far!</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1504010</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1504010</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:47:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to El Cid or Spartacus? on Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:47:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>turtletommy</strong> — <em>12 years ago(June 08, 2013 04:01 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Between those two films I prefer El Cid. It's become one of my favorite epics.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I simply can't choose cause they are my two favorite epics.  I'll put out El Cid simply because it does not get the respect it deserves.  Take either over Ben Hur any time though.</p>
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