Thank you JP. I try.
I will admit that a few people over the years tried my patience.
I have met so many IMDB friends in real life. Most of them are long gone from these boards but i still remember going for dinner with a writer/actress I know from these boards the last time I was in California and as we took the hotel elevator down, the doors opened and in stepped ANOTHER shop talk friend that I had never met face-to-face.
But 30 years in this business is probably enough. I have met some wonderful folks; worked with some amazing people both in front and behind the camera, and made friends around the world. It's been a great career.
But don't worry; I am not going anywhere. For as long as there are still good people NOT making it home safe at the end of their day in the film business, I will still keep advocating for safety, making a pest of myself with producers and lamenting with the DOP that we are probably the two oldest people on set. Other than maybe Randall Wallace and Lasse Halstrom, I probably have t-shirts older than the last 30 directors I worked for.
On the other hand, perhaps people SHOULD listen to the old man in a young person's game. He just may have something to say.

I second this. There were some great folks in here, and a lot of working professionals came on here anonymously over the years to help newcomers. Those are the folks I will miss the most. They were the ones who understood the true meaning of the term "shop talk," and "paying it forward."
On a side note, I actually had the pleasure of meeting FT in real life the last time he was down in California. I attended a workshop he was giving, and let me assure you, he is as calm and patient in real life as he appears on these boards.

That's probably the most apt description of any Ryno thread. Even those of us who have seen him do this over and over again for years still get sucked in. The questions seem genuine at first.
On a side note, firearms trainer (and arriflex and even aiwaz), I thank you for your input and your patience with this board. I know it's mostly newbie bullsht 99% of the time but those of us who are serious about filmmaking, whether as a passion project or as a career aspiration, greatly appreciate the feedback from working professionals.
Now what camera should I buy?

Someone called it a vortex. It is more like a black hole of anti-matter that once it sucks you in, you will have no hope of ever emerging.
And to think I used to do the Kessel run in 13 parsecs.

In a Ryno thread, I assure you you're not the naive one

you're right.
I guess I am just hopeful and naive.
I know someone like Ryno so it hits close to home.

When this board dies later this monthwill you finally go out and start doing it?
Unfortunately, there are other message boards where he does the exact same thing. Everything he learns in this thread, he'll misinterpret and then ask for clarification on one of the other message boards. I am a regular at one such board and in a few days there'll be a new Ryno question "Some people have told me that I need to spend less time researching and learning, and more time using my camera, so where can I find something to shoot?"
After the IMDB boards die (may they rest in peace) he'll just crank up the posting on those other message boards and still learn not a fooking thing.

Big budget films havewell you know big budgets.
Why don't you make projects that fit YOUR budget?
Why not make a sappy short about lone filmmaker worrying that his camera isn't good enough but instead of actually doing anything with it he just sits on a dying messenger board?
I see you constantly asking about some complex plot about cops and robbers or something with many characters and subplots.
And for what? What have you actually done with that script? You're just jerking everyone by the tail with questions that you could find answers for yourself.
If you only invested half of the time you're putting into this research and worrying about equipment, maybe you'd be actually closer to making that cops and robbers movie. Maybe not.
When this board dies later this monthwill you finally go out and start doing it?

I just figure why do big budget movies spend all this money on high performance equipment, if story telling is a lot more important.
Because this quote illustrates why exactly you have been wasting our time for the past eight years. If you don't understand this basic concept, then there is NOTHING anyone can do for you.
If you want to make nothing but home movies until all your money is all gone, then keep worrying about the equipment.
If you want to be a filmmaker, take three years of film school, and then revisit this question. All will become clear.
Many filmmakers become filmmakers because they make films. They learn as they go, and improve with every project. You, on the other hand, haven't learned the one most important basic concept in filmmaking in the past eight years you have been on these boards.
Either go to film school and start at lesson one, or find a new hobby. You don't have the basic knowledge to do this one.

Alright, perhaps, I am worrying too much about the performance of the equipment :). I mean there are some equipment I should have sure I figure. I figure that say, a boom mic, is better than the on board camera mic obviously But I should get too worried, or too carried away with it.
I just figure why do big budget movies spend all this money on high performance equipment, if story telling is a lot more important.

Sigh.
I guess you will never get it.
A camera is just a tool. Tell a good story FIRST, then worry about the camera. The mission dictates the equipment, not the other way around like you have it.

Phase One. Everything else is for amateurs.

NO professional will ever take you the slightest bit seriously if you show up with your Barbie's First Camera.
Well if that's true then what cameras should I get then?

You're just making excuses.

Keep shooting your little home movies on your cheap toy camera. No one here cares anymore. You are not serious about learning your craft, and you don't even have the slightest clue about why you SHOULDN'T shoot a feature on a digital Rebel, so this will always just be a hobby for you until your money runs out.
NO professional will ever take you the slightest bit seriously if you show up with your Barbie's First Camera.
But good luck with your home movies.

The thing about renting is, is that I would have to learn an all new camera in such a short amount of time, where as if you own the camera, you have a lot more time to learn.

Are you the cinematographer? Most people I know own a camera or two but they actually rent equipment for bigger productions. You know it's better to rent a high end camera and spend the money you would have on it for budget of your project?
I know people who own RED cameras that by today's standards they are not high end and worst part is they are still paying it off. The projects he works on usually has budget to rent a newer RED, or couple Sony A7S MKII. Each project calls for a different camera. You want to just buy and store gear, that's your call. The money you spend on owning gear could go toward your production to hire make up artist, stunt coordinator, editor, colorist, or anyone that will help you make your film a better piece.
Or you could invest in a camera that will be in few years outdated. Your call.

No I wasn't planning on making a feature now, just investing in future equipment so I would get the most bang for my buck, and use the camera over and over again.

Why not? The camera is just a tool.
I see you on here just talking about this and about that. Maybe you should just do it instead?
So you made one short film and you are already going to make a feature? Trust me a camera is going to be least of your concern.
The chances that first feature being picked up are very slim and if by chance your film is phenomenal, it being shot on a DSLR isn't going to stop it from landing a deal. However like I said chances of it happening it pretty slim. Just make a movie, see for yourself. You worry too much about nonsense. Your films aren't going to be award winning right out of the gate.
Maybe make some short films before you commit to blowing budget on a much larger project.

I shot one short film on it so far, but wasn't sure if it would be good enough for a feature.

Why don't you shoot it and tells us later?

You shooting anything on any type of camera is a bad idea. You should try your hand at other things. Take up angling or something.

Download Magic Lantern. Problem solved.

Okay thanks. I am not saying I am going to shoot a feature now. It's just I was wondering if it's worth investing in a more expensive camera for the future.
One thing I have noticed in my shooting, is that the camera does not shoot RAW video, so the color grading options are limited, cause it causes more noise in grading. Could this be a problem, when wanting to look professional?