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<p dir="auto"><strong>Movie&amp;TVSummaries</strong> — <em>2 years ago(May 04, 2023 09:40 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">With Val Verde, you get Alien, Predator, Die Hard, Terminator, Robocop, Commando, Ricochet, Soldier, Blade Runner &amp; even Speed all in the mix together.<br />
With St. Elsewhere, you get all the other hit Tom Fontana/David Simon shows (Oz, Homicide, City on a Hill, The Wire) and the Dick Wolf franchises (Law &amp; Order, FBI, One Chicago) as well as other crossovers (Chicago Hope, Picket Fences, even Detective Munch appearing on Arrested Development and X-Files!)</p>
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<p dir="auto">I think there should be a Val Verde stamp of approval for films which fit the bill of being awesome<br />
The writers also have to explain off-camera how Val Verde is connected to the film.<br />
It could make choosing what to watch a whole lot easier<br />
Ding Dong<br />
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]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615407</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615407</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Movie&amp;TVSummaries</strong> — <em>2 years ago(July 30, 2023 09:11 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Completely! And speaking of Expendables, if I ever get a chance, I'm going to ask the writer who created that silly '80s inspired saga and ask if Val Verde is in fact the country so I can connect it to this alternative cinematic universe.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615406</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615406</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Phaenon</strong> — <em>2 years ago(July 30, 2023 08:46 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">At the very least you have your Lethal Weapon universe somehow in play though<br />
Ding Dong<br />
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]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615405</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615405</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Movie&amp;TVSummaries</strong> — <em>2 years ago(July 30, 2023 08:04 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I remember the ManlyMovie jerks. Some of them were spamming all of the Expendables movies forums which became insufferable.</p>
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<p dir="auto">McClane's lifestyle is mainly based on stupid luck, the only thing missing are any Lethal Weapon connections.<br />
I apologise for linking to this website as it used to contain many of IMDbs worst ******* who couldn't eject a videotape for love nor money<br />
However one of them picked up on something I mentioned back in the day and made a brief article upon it and so it might help you out on the universal connection you are looking for between all of these movies.<br />
You can read it here and hopefully that will get you on your next step<br />
of our cinematic trail.<br />
Don't comment though there, they are just a bunch of fags.<br />
Ding Dong<br />
!<br />
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]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615403</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615403</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Movie&amp;TVSummaries</strong> — <em>2 years ago(July 29, 2023 08:23 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">In all fairness, Robocop is more of a social commentary (a la the usual Cyberpunk noir) on the dangers of technology and the corporations that shield them, hence why the Weyloun Yotuni company (allued to in Firefly/Angel/Alien films/Blade Runner) made replicants and has connections to Cyberdyne/Skynet from the Terminator films.<br />
I mainly love how the newer Battlestar Galactica show made allusions to Blade Runner and essentially shows that mankind is still refusing to learn from its mistakes. McClane's lifestyle is mainly based on stupid luck, the only thing missing are any Lethal Weapon connections.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615402</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615402</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man</strong> — <em>2 years ago(July 29, 2023 01:51 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">A big complaint about the Die Hard franchise is that in the real world John McClane would be hailed as a hero and probably move to a more lucrative career but in this Val Verde universe supercops (and supersoliders) are not out of the ordinary so a better opportunity won't necessarily show up for him. I think that also gives Robocop a better grounding in Val Verde than in reality.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615401</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615401</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Movie&amp;TVSummaries</strong> — <em>2 years ago(June 07, 2023 05:09 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">It wasn't unintentional as the same set/prop guys worked on it, let alone, the cinematographer was directing it and producer Lawrence Gordon stated it was meant to be the next Die Hard type disaster picture.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Your profile pic is hilarious<br />
Don't tell Harry</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615399</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615399</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man</strong> — <em>2 years ago(May 12, 2023 07:04 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I see. Speed using the same buses as Die Hard could be an unintentional movie prop convenience. Like the newspaper Al Bundy always reads which connects Married With Children to scores of other TV shows and films.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615398</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615398</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Movie&amp;TVSummaries</strong> — <em>2 years ago(May 09, 2023 06:33 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Wikipedia does tons of gatekeeping.<br />
Both de Souza and Joel Silver did most of the connections (Verde is the country for Commando, Die Hard 2 and Predator, which was noted even more heavily in comic books and videogames for the latter).<br />
One of the reporters from Die Hard 1 appears in Ricochet and Ridley Scott did the whole Blade Runner and Alien are connected after fans kept asking. The buses from Speed are the same fictional company as the ones in Die Hard 1 &amp; 3.<br />
Terminator's Cyberdyne corporation was in original draft for Aliens before being eliminated. They later did comic book/videogame crossovers with Terminator, AVP and Robocop.<br />
Furthermore, the evil corporation's logo in Alien is visible in the show Firefly and that show &amp; Blade Runner both have many connections to Battlestar Galactica.<br />
It's not fans having too much free time…</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615397</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1615397</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Val Verde and St. Elsewhere universes are the best ones ever created! on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:58:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man</strong> — <em>2 years ago(May 06, 2023 12:56 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I have heard of the St. Elsewhere universe but never Val Verde:<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Verde_(fictional_country)" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Verde_(fictional_country)</a><br />
I have to say it seems to rest on a flimsier foundation. How do Blade Runner, Speed, Alien, Robocop, and Terminator fit into it? They don't appear in the Wikipedia list. The list also doesn't include Die Hard but Steven E. de Souza wrote that movie and Val Verde does appear in that series:<br />
<a href="https://diehard.fandom.com/wiki/The_Republic_of_Val_Verde" rel="nofollow ugc">https://diehard.fandom.com/wiki/The_Republic_of_Val_Verde</a><br />
But I don't see any connection between him and those other films.</p>
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