Even thou robin Curtis did a decent job and I felt really bad for her when she wanted to return for undiscovered country but nick Meyer didn't like her version when Kirstie alley refused because of her cheer commitments. However I did like Kirstie version and would be been interesting to see how she would have reacted to David's death,

I agree.
I know the reasons why she didn't have been discussed to death over the last 30 years, but at the end of the day, her Saavik was great, and missed later on.
I can imagine the character played by Alley in later films and TNG (though perhaps that would justify her fear of being typecast). Still, a loss to the series, especially to the Genesis trilogy.

Exactly. Lots of little nuances to Alley's performance. I love when Kirk finally explains how he beat the Kobayashi Maru test, and she goes non sequiter. Not beating the test was sticking in her craw and she's totally thrown for a loop when Kirk explains his "solution". I think the Curtis Saavik would have been coldly indignant.
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I didn't like her personality much, but she did seem spot on for a Vulcan.
That's a part of the problemshe is TOO Vulcan. It is well known that Saavik was supposed to be half Vulcan/half Romulan in Star Trek II. The reference to this was filmed, but deleted for whatever reason. regardless of the deleted reference, Kirstie played the character with that in mind, hence the reason she curses when the Klingon trap is revealed during the Kobyashi Maru test, or why she sheds a tear at Spock's funeral. She has those small moments that show her struggle to control her emotions. That element is what gave Kirstie's performance as Saavik a spark of life and makes her a fan favorite. When Robin Curtis took on the role, they ignored the half Vulcan/half Romulan aspect of the character and thus Curtis was instructed to play the role as full Vulcan. The result was a jarring change from an interesting Saavik to a rather bland Saavik.
Trek III can ignore the line about Saavik being a half-blood due to it being cut from Trek II all it wants, but you really can't ignore all the small nuances to the character as played by Alley that was there as a result of the deleted line. In the end, the line NEVER should have been deleted from Trek II to begin with.

Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

I think Kirstie alley and robin Curtis were both good

I didn't like her personality much, but she did seem spot on for a Vulcan.

Not sure if you can blame Curtis or if Nimoy was responsible. But the character certainly lost all of her humor.
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Saavik had a big part in Star Trek III. And Robin Curtis ruined it.

She didn't join Cheers until 3 years later. But she was in that incredibly awesome movie with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons!
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didn't Kirstie start Cheers when they made star trek III?
"sticks and stones may brake my bones but whips , chains, leather and tight pvc excite me"

I'm glad the Saavik character didn't return in VI. I like her too much to see her turn traitor like Valeris.
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What? No jokes about Alley being in Star Trek IV - the one with the whales?
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http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Saavik
-thats a lengthly article so i'll summerise:
basically meyer wanted Kim catrell as Savvik in II but she was unavailable so Alley got the part.. then for III her agent demanded too much $ (more than De Kelly apparently) so R Curtis was cast..then for VI Meyer wanted Alley back as Savvik as he didnt dig Curtis in the role but she was too expensive due to Cheers, Look Whos Talking etc so Catrell got the new role of Valeris..then there was the TNG episode Cause and Effect where the producers wanted Alley as Savvik to stand alongside fellow Cheers star Kesley Grammer at the end but again the $ werent enough
i guess ideally the smokin 80s Catrell couldve been Savvik throughout II, III, IV and VI.
but then Alley shouldve really come back for III, IV and then VI
but since things happened the way they did and Alley didnt return, maybe they shouldve just cast R Curtis as Savvik in VI instead of creating a new character (wouldve been cool had Alley done it - tying in with TWOK and all, but seems abit harsh not wanting Curtis there since she had taken over and since VI was bookending the Genesis 'trilogy' and it was her version of Savvik that witnessed Davids death at the hands of the klingons which wouldve been the ideal reason for savvik turning traitor - anyway audiences wouldve been abit like 'eh WTF? Alleys back as Savvik?')

In the case of Kristie Alley not returning some say it was because she didn't want to be typecast. In other cases it was her agent who mispresented her and wanted too much money.however I think Kristie did want to come back.

Did she, though? Her first response was "I don't know," then goes on to mention she was offered less money for a role that was described to her as larger. Sounds like it was just about the $$$, which is no great revelation on her part. That info has been out there for a long time.
I think it was more interesting to know that this year was her first con appearance.
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Alleys reveals why she didn't do III:
http://trekmovie.com/2016/08/06/kirstie-alleys-convention-debut-a-huge-success

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I liked Robin Curtis in this, and was the most attractive of the three

some rare Alley Savvik pics (I haven't seen them b4 anyway)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1e/37/87/1e378705fec853ea81d40e211bb13f63.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/02/263F5F7600000578-0-image-m-17_1425315552327.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e8/17/ec/e817ecb4dd3bc6ab687aa453033dcbcf.jpg
some 1984 pics from Runaway (how shed have looked if shed been in Trek III - I imagine shed have had permed longer hair like Curtis as it was fashionable at the time.)
http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/261767/261767_large.jpg
http://www.kino.de/wp-content/gallery/k/i/kirstie-alley/runaway-spinnen-des-todes-kirstie-alley-7-rcm0x1920u.jpg
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/EFB8JK/kirstie-alley-runaway-1984-EFB8JK.jpg

http://whatculture.com/film/12-least-successful-recastings-of-iconic-f ilm-characters.php/2
Films:
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984) & Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986)
Replacing:
Kirstie Alley
It might seem ridiculous to say so now, but Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was originally intended to be the last Star Trek film. The critical and commercial failure of Star Trek: The Motion Picture led to the second film being made on a much lower budget, and the fact that Spock was being killed off in its climactic moments put a feeling of finality upon proceedings. But once TWOK became a commercial hit, producer Harve Bennett began planning a further sequel, which subsequently became a loose trilogy with Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
Most of the core cast of TWOK returned for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, with Leonard Nimoy stepping into the directors chair as well as reprising the title character. But Kirstie Alley, who had played his half-Vulcan counterpart Saavik, did not return. Saavik was Alleys first big screen role, and due to a legal oversight her contract did not contain any stipulations regarding a sequel. Worrying about being typecast, Alley demanded more money but Bennett refused and replaced her with Robin Curtis for the next two films.
Alleys performance as Saavik is one of the more under-appreciated aspects of TWOK. Its a thankless role in some respects, having to play the by-the-book rookie against the experienced crew of the Enterprise, but Alley brought an earnest commitment to the role which made it more than the tits and ass performance that the producers wanted. Curtis, by contrast, isnt particularly charismatic and seems uneasy amongst all the prostethics and silly costumes. While Alley worked hard to make her character rounded, Curtis allows Saavik to become at best an awkward distraction.

I'd heard that she wanted more money, and was thus replaced. But I like Alley's take on Saavik better than Curtis.
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