I thought the general consensus was that Hamas did the attack to screw up Israel's relations with the other countries in the middle east that were starting to get too normal. If that's the case they could get completely wiped out and still win.

Avoiding total loss is not the same as winning.
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yes i do. you havent defined "win" so there's several layers how hamas can "win" this: diplomatic, militarily, economic, public opinion.
isareli intel totally failed to predict this, so i doubt it will be able to identify and target even a samll fraction of hamas "leadership." scare quotes important because Hamas is an asymmetrical and highly decentralized organization: it doesnt have a mailing address or a vistor's center; so rooting out this level is impossible.
second, i bet $100 Euro that Hamas commanders put out the word that from the start of the war that all members of Hamas will operate independently. how does Israel deter this? it cant unless it occupies every inch of gaza and rounds up every Gazan/resident and verifies who they are. not gonna happen.
and already in europe the masses are getting tired of the daily news about this war; same in the uS.
israeli military is stretched way, way too thin and the military industrial base is not as vaunted as people assume; so time is on hamas's side, especially if Hezbollah jumps in or if these Houthi clowns get involved.
i support israel but i dont buy into the propaganda machine-worldview of the battlefield reality

I would refer you to the American revolution or the battle of Hodow. In any case it is entirely possible.
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A militia can't beat an army.
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Israel wins.
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They're like third world countries. Is there even a winner outcome in a situation like this?

Retards do.
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https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/former-hamas-leader-calls-friday-day-of-jihad-message-anger-palestinians-khaled-meshaal-jordan-syria-lebanon-egypt-warfare-plan-iraq-michael-mccaul-john-kirby-ali-baraka-gaza-israel-violence
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conman ≠ flood of morons
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https://www.filmboards.com/board/t/HAMASS-WINS!-3481148/
https://www.filmboards.com/board/t/Everyday-Israelis-Express-Support-for-Genocide-3346579/
https://www.filmboards.com/board/t/War-Crime!-Genocide!-Watch-!!!-3481200/
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I did, found not a one. No one said that.
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Go back and check the posts from the first week after the attack.
It happened
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Who claimed that Israel was about to be completely destroyed?
Nobody claimed Israel was about to be completely destroyed.
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I knew I should have suggested backgammon or tennis instead!
We know they can win at water polo though so that suggestion is out.
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I have no idea
You could have stopped right there and be correct for the first time in Your life.
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I have no idea if they are any good at checkers.
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True dat.
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Because that is the bulk of the militaries firepower. Because beyond tank, planes and fancy toys it still comes down to manpower. Men with guns.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-we-bother-with-infantry-and-tanks-when-planes-absolutely-dominate-the-future-of-warfare-In-any-future-conflict-wont-the-side-with-more-and-better-planes-win
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You keep focusing on the guns the military has. Why?
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since they have more advanced weaponry
We have been over this. The vast majority of those 3 million DO NOT have advanced weaponry. In fact most of them have inferior weaponry M4's & M16's.
In total, Americans own over 415 million firearms, consisting of approximately 171 million handguns, 146 million rifles, and 98 million shotguns. They also collectively own over 4 trillion rounds of ammo.
To put that in context only about 100 Billion rounds were fired during WWII.
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Well, the 3 million have a damn good chance since they have more advanced weaponry and most gun owners don’t have anything more than a handgun. So… yeah… how about that?
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Whether or not the full 77 would go is not the point.
The point is that you think that even if the full 77 go YOU THINK that the 3 could take them.
That makes you a total ****ing retard.
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Dude, you live under a rock. All of your opinions are based on anecdotal evidence and biased information. You have no ****in clue what the average person thinks.
I mean, seriously, you think all 77 million gun owners would want to go to war so they could keep their guns. They won’t. Not even five million would. At best, you’re looking at a force of a couple million and that’s being extremely generous. The vast majority of gun owners aren’t as militant about their gun ownership as you are, homey.
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