This was totally an 80s leftist movie. Back then republicans were usually the PC ones and above any crude humor. Now it's the democrats that are PC about everything. This movie would never be made today by leftist Hollywood. They wouldn't let the kids play with toy guns, use the language they did, mock school shootings, show a nude toddler, promote fatherhood and discourage single motherhood among other things.

Well it's not meant to be taken that way.
It's meant to show that Gill is:

• a buck passer (he doesn't want to deal with that decision)
• doesn't want another kid, but REALLY doesn't want blood (figure of speech) on his hands, thus "it's YOUR choice" therefore he can walk away with a "clean" conscience ("Hey, YOU decided to have the abortion, don't guilt me about it").
  And the wife clearly takes it that way, and chews him out for it.
  Don't see any propaganda being pushed in our faces either way. If anything the movie is stating that it should be BOTH their choice, not just hers (men complain how they are cut out of the decision-making process, EXCEPT when it's inconvenient).

And perhaps, part of him did want an abortion. I could understand his feeling this, even for just a brief time.
If the situation was reversed, and the wife wanted the abortion, would people be just as offended?
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

I thought of it as Gil being caught off-guard, and not knowing HOW to react.
He had just lost his job, albeit he quit, but still. He'd lost a partnership he'd worked hard for, come home to find his wife is unplanned-pregnant.
He was a worry-wart to boot, and still reeling too from the problems with his son Kevin, daughter Taylor, and even the toddler Justin.
He didn't want to offend his wife either, he didn't know what to say.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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The film has such a pro-abortion agenda that in the ending about three or four babies are born, including the one whose termination was being discussed by the character.
Oh, in Schindler's List some Nazis kill Jews. Spielberg and the movie are obviously anti-Semitic, according to your infatile rationale.

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You figured it out; Parenthood was secret leftist propaganda.
It's a miracle that George H.W. didn't hand the keys to the country over to the Soviets two weeks after the movie came out.

Isnt that the answer feminist want men to give. Its your choice, I have no say.

I don't think the movie itself was being pro-abortion at all since she has the baby in the end, just the opposite. They simply reflected how lots of couples feel in tough situations. Gil was already under lots of pressure, trying to be the best dad he could, when all 3 of their kids needed extra attention (especially Kevin), and the added stress of him quitting his job showed that it wasn't a good time for Karen to tell him she was pregnant.
I agree with previous posters, based on how he reacted ("lets have a dozen and pretend they're donuts!") you could tell he wanted her to have the abortion at the time being, but didn't want to actually say it and sound uncaring.
That's exactly what I love about this movie (and ones like it). Even though it's entertaining and has some funny parts, it really is more serious, and it makes you think by showing both sides of the issue.
What Gil said was no more pro-abortion than saying American History X was pro-racist, when the overall message showed why it isn't good to be racist.

Troubled, lol. I appreciate the concern. You're practically a saint.
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You're actually offended I asked you for a little depth behind your statement. Uptight much? Prick.
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Men more or less have to agree with whatever the woman wants because if we don't we look like jerks. What else do you need me to tell you?
You couldn't have just said this a few posts back? Seriously?
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I asked you to clarify/elaborate on one of your statements. You refused. Thanks for the stimulating conversation.
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I asked you a question. Why you are refusing to answer is beyond me.
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No it was a character giving the only response that is acceptable for a man to give.
It's unacceptable for a man to want to have a say in whether his child gets to live or not?
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