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<p dir="auto"><strong>creatorof2002</strong> — <em>9 years ago(May 22, 2016 03:15 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Ok maybe its a tad indirect he is not literally the one who pulled the trigger but I think De Nero in this is the one ultimately responsible for his closest friend's death.  He was an ENABLER.<br />
Sometimes in codependent relationships ENABLERS support unhealthy habits causing the death of their friends or loved ones.  Obvious examples are morbidly obese people and those who keep feeding them or alcoholics and friends who keep buying them liquor.  A true friend would put there foot down and insist that their friend get help and refuse to continue to be an enabler.<br />
Well his friend was out of control.  He killed a mentally challenged young man whose only job seemed to be pouring their drinks just on a whim, he brutally harassed the poor restaurant owner who was just reminding him he had a big tab and most of all he helped his friend kill Billy Bats.<br />
He should have talked to his friend and explained that they would need to put off killing Billy Bats, maybe swallow their pride and not kill him at all.  Instead being a classic enabler he helped with the murder.  Of course if Billy disappears the same night as that ugly angry scene with all those witnesses the mafia will assume he was killed by the guy he angered.  I am not sure why the other 2 were not also killed.  Maybe the mafia did not know for sure who was helping Tommy so he was the only one they were certain about?<br />
Hell, had they been really patient and waited a few MONTHS to ambush and kill that Billy Bats guy it would have been a tad less obvious.  The fact that it happened only a few HOURS later makes it really easy to put 2 and 2 together but had they waited a few months I am sure Billy being the A hole that he was would have offended plenty more people and that would make it harder to pinpoint Tommy.<br />
I wonder if he realized his friends death was partly his fault?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Autism baiter. They were not anti-autistic at all. So stop saying that.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Well said. And it seemed like Paulie was just as much an enabler as Jimmy. For example, the scene were the restaurant owner is pleading with Paulie in regards to Tommy. Paulie says, "Tommy's a bad seed. What do you want me to do". I don't know. Maybe considering how you're his boss and one of the few people that he both fears and respects, you can have a stern conversation with him and put him line. Having a loose canon like Tommy on your crew would be dangerous for everyone.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I'm sure they were GREAT friends. Any group of people who puts in that much work over a course of years will develop a strong bond.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Just FYI the death of Billy Batts happened in Henry's own restaurant that he had tried to start to get away from the mob.   Unfortunatley, they wouldn't let him leave, took over the joint, and when Billy Batts' death happened, that was the final straw for Henry.   He'd have to stay in the mob or he'd be put to death.   Also the actual death was actually over Jimmy wanting to keep some businesses that had previously belonged to Billy Batts while he was in prison.    So in order to keep them he and Tommy killed him.<br />
Green Goblin is great!</p>
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<p dir="auto">I think he was less friendly than that. This movie made Jimmy out to be a nice guy and a father friend and a loyal friend to Tommy. He used them in real life.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I don't feel the same way.  Jimmy was not going to do any better than what he was with Paul Cicero.  Being made is far from being made a Capo which is where Tommy could only begin to help Jimmy.  The problem with Tommy being made in the movie is having to use Henry Hill's filter as to what he wanted the audience to know as opposed to knowing the truth.  Being made would be at the high end of accomplishments for Tommy in my mind as opposed to what we see in the movie where it is implied that Tommy will have value to Jimmy down the road in organized crime.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I agree. I've heard other people say that Jimmy was crying over Tommy, but I've never had that impression myself. The way Henry was narrating about how excited Jimmy was to have a friend as a made man, it seemed like Jimmy was only happy because of the connections it would bring him, not because he was happy for Tommy. I make no doubt that his tears were mainly, if not totally, due to him losing his opportunity to get closer to the mafia. Henry was a close friend of Jimmy and still he was going to be whacked; I don't doubt that he would have done the same to Tommy if he felt that Tommy was a risk.</p>
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<p dir="auto">and I think he really did love Tommy and care about him.<br />
This is true only to an extent.  Yes, as much as Jimmy Conway (Burke) could, he did love the guy.  But for a guy like Jimmy, he was incapable of being a friend to anybody in the way you and I are.  Jimmy was only out for himself.  He would have whacked anybody to get more money.  This isn't really disputable as we saw the results of Lufthansa.  He killed everyone associated and Henry was next in line.<br />
I think Tommy would only have been a short time after that and the only reason it hadn't happened yet is because Tommy hadn't pissed him off yet.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I disagree, they had a "bromance" of sorts and I think he really did love Tommy and care about him. I am sure he was looking forward to the added bonus of having a made man for a best friend but I think he really did love the man (NOT IN A SEXUAL WAY THEY WERE BOTH HETERO).  For example, no way would he have killed Tommy just to get ahead in some way.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Deniro was never really his friend (just in it for himself), neither did he seem interested in stopping his temper. When he was crying over his death, I reckon it was more to do with the opportunity of him being made going, rather than him being sad for him personally. I'm sure people have said this before</p>
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<p dir="auto">He was actually quite fond of Tommy but these guys are out for Numero Uno, Jimmy was tough but even he was "Whackable", he wasn't Made. He stood by Tommy when the incident went down but Tommy knew the risk, it was his decision.</p>
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