Plot twists (plural):
*Dil being transgender.
*Jody being gay or bi (perhaps it makes you reflect more on the relationship between Fergus and Jody.)
*Jody's "nature": Was it his nature to cheat? Did he know Dil would make Fergus happy if he didn't survive?
*Fergus still loving Dil after the gender reveal.
*Fergus doing time for the murder Dil committed. (Fergus's nature.)
*The twist not even MENTIONED in this whole thread: How about Dil getting to kill Jude?!? Who would have thought that a jilted lover would take down one of the most cold-blooded killers in the IRA??? Jude never saw it coming. Even though Jude stalked Dil as a way to blackmail Fergus and to get him to comply with the IRA, Jude did not know that Dil was Jody's former lover. Jude probably didn't know that Dil was a man either AND if she realized that Dil was their former prisoner's lover, Jude would have killed Dil immediately, realizing the threat.
But nah, broBae was cray! Dil just did Jude's hair, then POW POW! Classic tale of love and revenge!

Well the twist was great, i really didn't see it coming, the only problem i had with it was that it, in my opinion came way to early, there was an hour left for the movie to finish, and after that the movies goes normally, with no big surprises, it would have worked better if it was near the end imo.
It's still a good movie but it could have been something outstanding.
7/10

I remember very vividly when this movie came out in 1993.
The movie critics were calling it one of the best films of the year.
There were articles in the newspaper about people lining up at the cinema to see this movie and being turned back.
So, I knew it was a great movie and I was dying to see it also.
My brother and I went together. We were blown away by the initial part in terms of the rapport between Fergus and Jodie. We were just memorized.
then, Dil comes on the screen and my brother goes - "she looks like a man"! Then we watched the rest of the movie
The first part was what really stayed with us and to this day I consider that initial movie segment between Fergus and Jodie to be amongst the best movie-making I have ever seen.
Miranda Richardson was hardly in it.

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I know exactly what you mean, I found the fact it was a man was so obvious it could hardly be considered a twist.

While it's certainly true that men and women have differences in their skull features (most notably around the brow area and with a more pronounced, larger jaw for men) Jaye's is certainly not overtly masculine, but definitely androgynous, and coupled with the soft facial features and completely feminine hairstyle, he would quite effectively pass for female - as he, in fact, did - for most onlookers. So no, not "facepalm", it really was a twist, and was certainly considered thus by all who saw it, apart from -apparently!- a small minority.
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Yeah, I was waiting for that big twist all the time. Was not sure if that was it.
I was really scratching my head thinking, really? People really did saw a woman instead of a man?
First time I seen "her" something was really off. I mean, yes its possible to mix it up, but it was kinda obvious for me Males and females have very different scull.
So if that one is considered a twist Well, that wasn't a twist for me
Anyone who consideres this a twist facepalm Again, I am ok with some people not recognizing it. But I would still not take this as a twist, lol.

Regardless of twist its simply a story of love between two human beings, in the end the sexuality of Dil and Fergus is irrelevant they care for each other as lovers even though (in Fergus`s eyes) they are not.

I think you hit the nail right on the head. This movie doesn't have the same effect on people because we live in a different time. I have known many transgendered people and have studied the issue enough to not be shocked or disturbed by it. So, this movie really didn't "do much" for me. For one I knew that Dil was a man before the reveal and two even after it is revealed I didn't find the movie overall to really be that good. I'm shocked it was nominated for Best Picture because I would probably give the movie a 6/10 at best. I can't say I didn't like it but it was not very good. I thought the setup was promising but the second half was boring and drawn out.

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Jelly, you didn't say when you saw this film. Most of us who first saw it in the early 1990s were of a different era, in which transgender issues were not yet common fare. Most of us had no reason to think of Dil as other than what s/he presented. Now we know that human sexuality has never been as simple as just M or F. We understand that many are born physically neither/both M/F. And many others are born with the body parts of one sex but feeling they are the gender of the other, like Dil. And these two sets of factors can be separate from (or linked to) the sexual orientation one is born with, which is to say who one is attracted to and fantasizes about being intimate with. For most of us it is pretty simple (matching sex & gender and standard orientation), but for millions of our brothers and sisters, it is more complicated. We owe them our loving support, and equality of rights under the law.
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When I first saw this movie with my friends we immediately started making jokes how Dil looks like a man. If that was supposed to be a plot twist, then it's the most obvious plot twist in movie history.

Even if you knew about Dil or not think about this I think the other twist is that Fergus actually came to see Dil as a She and care for her, that he and she seem to be a couple at the end, i didnt see that coming seeing as how he had a part in her lovers death.

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Too bad your life is an atrocity itself for thinking The Dark Knight is an atrocity.

People come to this movie looking for a "twist", and get so wrapped up in its execution that they completely miss the point of it all.
And this mentality is the reason for the popularity of such atrocities as The Dark Knight.

And every other male attribute.

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by am_buglet_82 Tue Jul 31 2012 23:13:01 Flag | Reply |
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Dil wasn't a man.she was a woman with a penis.
LOL
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Other than the fact that Dil was a man, the twist is that Rhea's character, after finding that out, continued to have 'an affair' with Dil.

yes a shemale

So what's the twist then?

"Dil wasn't a man.she was a woman with a penis. "
This is exactly right.

Women can have penises.
But Dil was not one of them.