"The Vanguard" is the new up and coming, but I can't really watch it.
Yes, those guys are hard to watch. Very doctrinaire, somewhat naive and by the numbers progressive types and oh so young… though I shouldn't fault them for THAT.

They'll use the currency of the day, so when they're backed in a corner, Ana will cry "This is typical fascist male chauvinism".. It's amazing how they change, and how they do it. TYT got their 20 million in 2017, I think timed perfectly when Trump got in. Journalists know what they can or cannot say without even being told, and those who fall in line get the money.
Right now, someone who isn't very popular is going to attack TYT just to use their 5 million subscribers to get attention, and to get support from guys like Jimmy Dore… And, someone right now (not popular) will attack Jimmy Dore, saying how he bought a 2 million dollar house recently, "so much for a jagoff comedian doing a show in his garage".. I think many of the people online are playing a role. One market is full, so they do the opposite..
It's the other side, too.. When Trump got the nomination, the establishment Republicans (which is 99% of them) know they can't fight for Trump's support, so they do the never-Trump ****, or the Lincoln Log Project (where's the #metoo **** for the pedophile founder?) for the Democrats to elevate them, give them money, to praise Mitt Romney. It's unbelievable.
I could understand the "cult of personality"… If TYT were funny and/or entertaining, it makes the medicine go down easier, but when a Katzenburg gives that much money, it sets a horrible precedent for those with an audience. They think, "Well, maybe if I go towards the establishment, maybe WE can get some money?"…. People who never heard of TYT will now give lip service. A lot of this is possibly staged. A lot of quid pro quo, even things that seem fickle, such as my unproven theory where someone like agrees to re-tweet, or an interview on YouTube, for something in return. In the end, 99% will be rendered impotent.
And yes, Richard Spencer is more of a progressive than TYT. His ethno-state is never going to happen, so if you remove the impossible, he's very progressive when it counts. He's anti-war, single-payer, anti-Wall St., and he has a watchable show, and he can be funny, although I can do without Mark Brahmin, who's smart, but could take "The Karate Kid" and make it into something religious. So of course he's banned and has been for a while. He can't even visit most countries in the EU. No one gave a **** UNTIL one person died in Charlottesville and to cash in on it, they can't mention someone nobody knows, so they take the guy who is the most known, and uses him as a scapegoat. I do like Keith Woods and Ed Dutton. I'm sure a lot of MSNBC types have the same opinions, but with this PC bullshit so prevalent, they just don't mention their true opinions, unless its corporate approved. I would rather watch true dissidents I don't agree with because its more entertaining that **** everyone knows, and the chickenshit content.
"The Vanguard" is the new up and coming, but I can't really watch it. I heard the guy with the shorter hair take something totally the wrong way, and using something similar to the "Ok, boomer" **** as a defense. They're toeing the line the minute they see their channel grow after interviews with some popular folks on the alternative progressive populist side. I like that their from Kansas City, but they don't seem like it. A bit too feminine for me. I like clenched fists, especially considering what the **** is going on. I want someone who doesn't hold back, and to hell with a few extra followers (usually the wrong kind). And then you have the entire superchat business, and I've gave a few bucks just for cheap "influence" (mentions) of people and things I like.
The problem is when you attack ALL of them. I did a show when I had 8,000 subscribers on one channel, and I didn't hesitate for a second when I criticized Jimmy Dore/Tulsi Gabbard, and many who kept praising her without a true evaluation. I didn't believe her in 2016. She was brought in by Debbie Shits only because Gabbard was a veteran, which would be like the Republicans having a co-chairman who is gay. If there's something I hate, its sinecure. She cast her worthless ballot for Bernie Sanders, because no idiot is going to follow Deb Shits. And then you had right-wingers (to this day, which I don't use as a put-down) who show all their love to her, which I think is mostly due to her early days. I know I've mentioned my 5 page criticisms of her to you before, so I'll spare you…. But anyway, most people didn't want to hear their sacred cows criticized, and then I lost the channel for uploading old movies (that I tested on a burner YouTube account first).. I'll stop right here, because everyone tells me how long my replies are.
https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/young-turks-jeffrey-katzenberg-wndrco-funding-1202518938/
https://www.patreon.com/LoyalOpposition

Agree completely. TYT haven't been relevant in years. They pretend to be super progressive but they always fall in line with the establishment POV. It doesn't matter the issue. To quote myself from another board, "This is typical of middle of the road liberal types like Uygur. Playing the 'both sides are to blame' card doesn't cut it anymore. One side is clearly the colonizer/oppressor here and the other is the colonized/oppressed. Was it hard to condemn Apartheid in the 80s? Why is it so hard for liberals to condemn it now? Richard Spencer is more progressive on the Israel/Palestine issue than Cenk Uygur. Let that sink in for a moment."