That's right, crakatoot. Vigilantism is never condonable in the end. Better to have a flawed system than none at all. At least with it, one is offered a chance to tell their side. It must work for literally EVERY individual, or we might as well have none. Whether it be Mother Teresa or John Wayne Gacy. Does it need improvement? Who wouldn't agree it needs it. Direly so. With vigilantism, where would one draw the line? If we allowed people to take their own deadly corrective measures to avenge murder, you think it'd stop there? Not on your life. Soon, people would be killing people over the most ridiculous reasons. To the original poster, I understand where you're coming from. I do. But that's not those people's (DeNillo, the defense attorney, the judge, Angel, etc.) fault. It's simply the type of system they have to work with. No doubt they despise the hell out of it. But again, better than no system at all.

That people who commit crimes (especially ones like rape and murder) should not be coddled and should be punished for what they do. Not get away with it, and not have more rights than the victims.
And for the purpose of the movie, it did work. Dobb raped and murdered again after getting away with the first one (that he was caught for). After being killed, we have a 100% guarantee he will never do it again.

My point is vigilante justice doesn't work. What is your point?
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Yeah, because everyone rapes and murders. Oh, wait. Well, everyone steals because they are too lazy to work. Oh, wait.
But let's have no consequences for chosen actions. That will make people act right! Oh, wait.

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
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A lot of crimes are committed for greed also. Or a person being completely unwilling to work for what they want. The problem is, there are people who always look for excuses for this type of behavior.

That's the problem with this movie. Rarely do people exist that are just pure evil. Most crimes are committed do to desperation, drug addiction, mental illness and other mitigating factors. The idea that this guy is just pure evil and killing him is completely justified is nonsense. It makes us, the audience feel better but it's not reality.
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Believe me, OP and everybody else here, I hate the system too. But defense attorneys are important when it comes to innocence and guilt in a courtroom. Even if they'd personally just as soon have nothing to do with an accused, they have to do their job and represent them to the best of their ability. Objectivity must take the place of subjectivity (personal biases, emotions, etc), no matter what the case is about. How that woman felt about Doob personally was beside the point. She probably was revolted by him. Nevertheless, she had to defend him to the best of her ability, regardless of any personal feelings toward him. Just like a doctor has to treat a patient the best they can, no matter who it is. Hippocratic oath. If it wasn't for defense attorneys, innocent people would be punished unjustly. Just as guilt must be exposed and punished, innocence at the same time must be protected.

It enhances a defense attorney's reputation, and he can make more money.
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Unfortunately, that's not how it is. Bleeding hearts decided that since "we" are "keeping the poor dears locked up" (just because they raped, murdered, etc) they should have rights no law-abiding person has.

Yeah the rights of a victim should outweigh a murderer in prison.
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Yes, I hate it too.
A criminal chooses to attack an innocent person who fights back. Criminal is arrested, but both need to go to the hospital.
Criminal now has right to health care because he was arrested for the crime he chose to commit. Criminal does not pay one cent for heath care. Care is paid for by law-abiding people.
Victim, however, does not have the right. Victim has to pay for every cent of his own health care, or do without it.

No you're not the only one, maybe we are in the minority on IMDb. lol.
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Am I the only one here who hates how everything seems to always be in the criminals favor?Rights,compassion,leniency,etc?
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Reminds me of a movie called "Final Justice" starring Annette O'Toole. She plays a woman who kidnaps the defense attorney who got her brother's killer off. She forces him, at gunpoint, to get into a dog kennel in the back of her SUV. He says "I really don't do my best work in kennels." The movie is not a comedy, just that I think this scene is hilarious.

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Yes, and the victims are entitled to nothing. What a system!

I don't know how other countries do it, but in America, one is entitled to the best defense he/she can get. No matter if a defendant is Charles Manson or Mother Teresa.

How do you figure she "enjoyed her victory"? We only see her in one scene, and her reaction seemed rather inert to me.

She seemed to enjoy her victory so I don't think it was simply she had to do the best job because it is her oath. I do feel she likes to win and will do it at any cost. Kind of reminds me of the Devils Advocate.
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Al Pacino made a very good definition in the film And Justice For All.
"What is justice? What is the intention of justice? Its intention is to make sure the guilty are proven guilty and the innocent are freed. Sounds simple right? Only it's not that simple. The problem is both sides wanna win, they wanna win regardless of the truth, justice exc.. winning is everything."

This is exactly why many people have a disdain for lawyers. Particularly criminal defense lawyers.
It's a job someone has to do (in the good ol' USA at least).

Exactly, Red. The plot did seem to contradict itself, though. The cops and courts weren't too upset about Julie's rape and murderthey certainly wouldn't be very upset about a good for nothing s**tbag like Robert Doob. I doubt Karen would have spent the rest of her life behind bars (considering), but she undoubtably would have spent time. That FBI agent was not warning her against it to be evil/condescending. Their job is simply to enforce the law. If you read between the lines, she was giving her a way to do it without getting in trouble. Yes, it's a screwy system, but we must have lines drawn somewhere. If we opened the door to allow civilians to kill to justify a murder, you think it'd stop there? Not on your life. It would continue to open doors, to allow killing for anythingsoon people would be killed just for looking at somebody cross-eyed. A civilized society would never last if we did that. Again, the system is far from perfect. But it's there to protect the rights of citizens. Every single individual. No matter who it is.

The system isn't perfect but it is there to keep the world from going into ciaos or turning into a Salem Witch trial and the Inquisition. We know Dobb is guilty because this is a film but in real life, we have to make sure that cases are fair and truly justified.