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<p dir="auto"><strong>sharon-draginis</strong> — <em>12 years ago(November 07, 2013 08:49 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Let's be clear: if this were a stand alone movie, it would be a decent<br />
film, a solid 7/10 at best. My beef is not that there's an addition to<br />
the storyline, despite the gigantic plot hole in creates in attempting<br />
to rewrite the book and script altogether. It's fine, more than fine,<br />
that the writers decided to completely disregard the specific twenty<br />
year gap mentioned both in the book and in the script. The plot itself?<br />
Fine! In fact, it's a rather intriguing premise, and perfectly workable<br />
from a story-teller point of view.<br />
But<br />
It's not fine that the entirety of its plot, when placed in the setting<br />
of The Thornbirds, is contrived out of character <em>beep</em> that could<br />
have never happened. It's not fine that the script writers so<br />
completely missed the point of each character. It's not fine that their<br />
motivations and ideas are so completely out of character that they are<br />
no longer the characters from either the book or the original series.<br />
Let us break down exactly exactly how far off the characters the<br />
writers went: Fiona - Meggie's mother. Arguably the best written<br />
character from McCollough's novel, and perhaps consequentially received<br />
the worst of the butchering. Nothing, nothing could have turned me off<br />
from this miniseries more than seeing Fiona, of all people, clutching<br />
her face and sobbing, "We need strong men around!" Seriously. Let's<br />
just back the hell up remember, REMEMBER, that this woman from the<br />
original book and series is the most reserved of creatures. Quiet,<br />
proper, and so fiercely independent and capable of running a household<br />
all on her own that she barely needs any help at all, even when<br />
birthing children like a hen lays eggs.<br />
Fiona doesn't need a man.<br />
Fiona doesn't need /anybody/. That's the whole point to her character.<br />
The only thing she needs is the love of her son, and later in life, she<br />
finds out that she was far more dependent on Patty's love than she'd<br />
realized, and it helps her realize that maybe, MAYBE Meggie needs a<br />
little more love as wellbut this happens far later, far far later,<br />
when Fiona is old and brittle and just coming to terms with how much<br />
more involved she should have been with Meggie emotionally.<br />
The Fiona in The Missing Years is vibrant, chatty, and meddling. The<br />
Fiona that McCollough wrote would find such qualities a nuisance.<br />
McCollough's Fiona is not vibrant. She is broken, and merely recovered<br />
to a point of bein functional, reserved, and so entirely private with<br />
her emotions that it'd be impossible for her to care for the emotions<br />
of anyone other than Frank and Patty.<br />
Meggie - People keep saying that the Meggie from The Missing Years is<br />
too hard and cynical, and I have to wonder what in the hell they're<br />
talking about. The Thornbirds Meggie version is far worse in that<br />
department. Why shouldn't she be? She just exited an emotionally<br />
abusive relationship, and ripped herself a child from Ralph's loins.<br />
If anything, this Meggie is appallingly similar to a doormat.<br />
McCollough's version of Meggie would have laughed, and laughed, and<br />
laughed her thin butt right off at the idea of Luke coming back to try<br />
and reconcile their relationship. And you know what? She would've sent<br />
him right back on the train. There would have been no second chances.<br />
If you don't think that as well, then you don't know who Meggie is as a<br />
character.<br />
Meggie /resented/ Father Ralph after she conceived Dane. All of her<br />
love for him transferred to Dane. There was still lingering fondness<br />
left over 20 years later when Ralph came to visit Dane in his older<br />
years, yes, but my God, she ferociously detested him for his lack of<br />
ability to love her as completely as she loved him, for his own<br />
inability to choose if she, or his ambition was more important in the<br />
long run.<br />
Do you think she would've opened herself, and allowed herself to be so<br />
vulnerable again after he'd just abandoned her for God? If you were in<br />
the same shoes, would you? Nooo. No. You'd be uncomfortable with him<br />
even setting foot in your own house, because you'd know this: Here is<br />
the man who loves ambition more than me.<br />
In some ways, he's the exact same as Luke. Both of them made it more<br />
than obvious to Meggie where their priorities were: Luke was with work<br />
and money, and Ralph was with 'God'. Both of them kept teasing her with<br />
glimpses of what life could be beyond, and Meggie was the one who<br />
realized, in both situations, that life them would never be any<br />
different than it already was. Luke would never tire of work and money,<br />
would never want to settle down. Ralph could never be at piece with<br />
himself, thinking he'd abandoned all of his power for something as base<br />
as physical love.<br />
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I could go on.<br />
I could go on, and on and on.<br />
The only character performance I truly enjoyed was Luke's. The actor<br />
claimed that role and made it as enjoyable as it was in the original,<br />
even if it's complete bullocks to think that Luke, for ANY INSTANT,<br />
would think twice about retrieving Meggie for any reason, and would<br />
want to settle down afterward. It's just bad. A</p>
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<p dir="auto">It might not have been in the original series, but in the novel I do believe Ralph visited when Dane and Justine were just children.  Meggie and Luke never reconciled though.<br />
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Oops. Mistake!<br />
Well, you could watch for Richard's sake, he is quite the fox. In part that's the reason that I watched it from start to end. I just wish the film would have shown more reverence to the characters rather than cash in on a story line.</p>
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<p dir="auto">OP: "<br />
Fiona - Meggie's grandmother.<br />
"<br />
Wasn't Fiona Meggie's mother?  Or did they make her the grandmother in this film?<br />
In any case, sounds like this was a total mess; I would've only watched it for dear Richard Chamberlain, but sounds like not even he could save this travesty.<br />
"Think slow, act fast."<br />
Buster Keaton</p>
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<p dir="auto">OP: "<br />
Fiona - Meggie's grandmother.<br />
"<br />
Wasn't Fiona Meggie's mother?  Or did they make her the grandmother in this film?<br />
In any case, sounds like this was a total mess; I would've only watched it for dear Richard Chamberlain, but sounds like not even he could save this travesty.<br />
"Think slow, act fast."<br />
Buster Keaton</p>
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