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Did Ordell 'get murdered'???
In the version I saw, Ordell was killed by Nicolette while advancing on Jackie and holding a gun.
Would the US legal system regard Nicolette's actions as 'murder'? I'd doubt it very much.
Besides, Ordell had killed others in the film for far less than half a million dollars. It's a rather odd assumption he WOULDN'T have killed Jackie. Ordell was one wild, dangerous character.
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Your theories are incredibly stupid.

I wanted Jackie and Max to become a couple, split the money evenly then take off together.

I agree. Also, I think the scene with Jackie & Max having coffee in her kitchen says it all. She's 40-something years old, she's gotten trapped in a dead-end airline job. She'd like to start over but it's really too late to start over. I think also if you keep in mind that her first crime was tied to her ex, you see that she really got suckered in a way. Now her only option is to take control and think of herself first.

I guess you could also see it as a social commentary. Jackie couldn't get ahead in life because of a crime that happened years ago so she was forced to commit more crime to keep her a float and so the cycle continues. Now she must commit the ultimate crime in order to get out completely. It's just a big cycle and we are all apart of it.

Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human. Ordell was killed by a police officer in performance of his sworn duty.
Did he deserve it? Remember what he earlier said after showing Beaumont's dead body in the trunk "I will kill him and 10 others just like him". And he would have too! Including Jackie.
Jackie did not have a lot of options at this stage of her life. A large part due to the choices she earlier made granted, however, she was not a cold-blooded killer selling weapons to other killers!
People were rooting for her because with Ordell out of the way and small retirement fund (which was not stolen money some children's charity), or in her words "would not be missed" she would now be free to live life under her terms and could go away to a warm place and live modestly free in her golden years. Something we all would like to do.

"Sure, Ordell was a bad person. But did he deserve to get murdered at the end? "
Yes, he murdered people. Did you forget about this?
"Would he have killed Jackie and Max?"
Yes, he's a murderer. He killed Beaumont which had nothing to do with money.

Maybe we shouldn't like Jackie. Maybe we should find ourselves rooting for her circumstance then find it hard to swallow in the end.
Elmore Leonard is really good at writing these kinds of stories, or he was anyway (RIP).
Frankly I don't know why you didn't find Max sympathetic. He was kind of this cuddly teddy bear in a story full of scum bags. To me his motives were the most pure, if you adopt his perspective without doing a subject analysis of what he did. In the end Max's reaction to her offer to leave with him for Spain was the author's nod to us about how its okay to not like Jackie. Max in the end isn't happy about it, he's ambivalent, he can't go with her, and then when she leaves he's still weighed down by it.
Very 70's ending, very complex. Very Elmore Leonard. Not every story has to centre on a protagonist we like. Thats what makes this such an interesting film for me.

It was definitely a message for Louis.
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Maybe that wasn't so much for the audience's benefit, but to send a message to Louis..
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The only scene I had a problem with was the scene when Ordell shows Louis Beaumont's dead body in the trunk and than explains why he was killed. The scene wasn't needed because I think most of the audience was sharp enough to figure that out and didn't need an explanation. Other than that it was a pretty good flick.

Good question, I don't know to be honest. I just didn't really like Jackie that much and liked Max even less. At least Ordell was entertaining.
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All the characters in this movie are morally ambiguous, even the FBI agents. How would you have liked it to end?
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I think Max was convinced that Ordell would kill him if he thought he was being double crossed.
SLJ convinced me too.
As for Jackie, I don't care much for her either but that doesn't change the idea that she is the less dangerous, "lesser criminal"in this scenario.
Don't forget the scene where Ordell went to see Jackie at her house. Another dramatic scene showing Ordell putting on his killing gloves before he knocked on her door. If she hadn't had Max's gun, then Ordell would have had the upper hand. He still needed her, but..he would have been in charge.

This.
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When Louis asked if it was Jackie who took the money why didn't she keep it all Ordell said "I will be sure to ask her just before I blow her brains out".

You're assuming a lot here! We don't know that Ordell would have killed them. He might have if he thought he could have gotten away with it, but then again he might have just taken his money.
Regardless of what's right and wrong in real life, my point is that I don't care about the character of Jackie enough in this movie. That's my main point. Ordell was more likeable, even though he was a murderer.
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You ask did Ordell deserve to "get murdered" at the end. I'm assuming this is a serious post/question.
yes, he did. Ordell surviving (or escaping jail) means that he could continue his illegal and vicious lifestyle. We watched him kill two people (other criminals, but nevertheless) Another was killed because of him. Yet another was drugged and kept "hostage" for Ordell's purposes, whatever that may be. Plus, he is part of the machine that helps keep other violent people armed with dangerous weapons.
I know it's just a movie, and that may be part of the reason you root for Ordell. I'm going to assume that given this as real circumstances in your actual life, you would not want the likes of Ordell to be living amongst us.
I agree that Jackie was a crook in her own right, by keeping Ordell in business.
However, with the demise of Ordell, Jackie is freed from this lifestyle and hopefully able to do some good with her small fortune.
Max took his cut from gun money, and goes back to his life of keeping the peace and helping to keep criminals at bay.
Your second question should be answered all by itself based on Ordell's previous actions. Yes, if he thought he could, he would have killed Jackie and or Max without hesitation.
This was one of QT's most interesting movies from the aspect of his camera angles and soundtrack. I enjoyed watching the money change hands, and jackie fool both the police and Ordell. His long scenes were captivating. Jackie walking out of jail meeting Max, the long take of Ordell and Beaumont also, among others.
SLJ's performance and transformation to cocky criminal to scared thug was amazing.