'And if FDR is so great how come he's dead?'
You got me there, FDR couldn't avoid death. What a loser!

So if I disagree with Jefferson that means I think I'm smarter than him? Ok, by that logic because you agree with Jefferson that means you think you are smarter than the rest of the founders. See how stupid you and that logic are?
You didn't really say much, you just made an incorrect statement.
And if FDR is so great how come he's dead?
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Hey, Shredder's Lil' Buddy, you wrote:
' Jefferson wrote them, but he said they should be changed by generation,that is incorrect.'
And you have no answer for the Smoot-Hawley because once again you have no facts, just strongly-held opinions.

So you got caught in a lie so once again you shift, and then lie again. Very good. FDR was garbage.
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YerDumb, why don't you read about the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act before you slander FDR again.
Most economists and economic historians agree that it was that these Republican set of tariffs that exacerbated the Great Depression. Not FDR (lol!).

from the man who thinks that he is smarter than Jefferson.
I never suggested this. You're just making stuff up again.
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Thanks for the erroneous history lesson from the man who thinks that he is smarter than Jefferson. Ha!

Yeah, FDR extended the Great Depression and social security is a garbage policy. But I do love how the hero of the Democrats was a terrible president who imprisoned Asians for being Asian and stole silver from the American citizens.
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Lincoln and FDR.
Lincoln for winning the Civil War, keeping the Union intact, and freeing the slaves, all while dealing with the death of a child.
FDR for getting the country back on track through the Great Depression, building the beginnings of a social security infrastructure, and supporting the Allies through Lend-Lease. While struggling with serious physical limitations.

Okay whatever.

You're not "supposed" to look at anything, but we were discussing the massive corruption in the Kennedy family.
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Exactly what was I supposed to be looking at?

Steve
My name is Mike.
You cannot make accusations like that without backing it up with some kind of reasons.
I can, actually. You can either assume I'm lying or take a look for yourself, I'm fine with it either way.
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He and his family were extremely corrupt.
Steve, what planet are you from? You cannot make accusations like that without backing it up with some kind of reasons.

The whole Kennedy family were a bunch of corrupt politicians. He wasn't a terrible president, but history shows him as great only because he got assassinated. He and his family were extremely corrupt.
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He was good, that's why he got assassinated. He attempted to be an actual president. Every Pres since has towed the company line. Regardless of party they all suck. But that is why they don't get picked off. Because they play ball with the powers that be.
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Kennedy was a bum.
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of all time?
I vote John F. Kennedy for dems…
and
Abraham Lincoln for Rep
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It's easy to admire men of the past; they had more to discover.

Nah, the founding principals are extremely important, and that is what made the US the greatest country of all time. Jefferson wrote them, but he said they should be changed by generation,that is incorrect.
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Jefferson was right. The key is flexibility. That's the genius of our Constitution. It adapts to the times.
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I like Thomas Jefferson for all of that, but he also believed new generations should change all of that as they see fit, thankfully the rest of the founders disagreed. I admire George Washington because he set the precedent. He was the first and he could have grabbed all of the power if he wanted, but he chose not to. He set the standard of limited government. He was the best, then Calvin Coolidge.
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People have short memories. They just go by default to the most recent president from their party. I find Thomas Jefferson most admirable for the bill of rights and his belief in decentralized government.
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I saw this and I was dumbfounded. Why would anyone admire either of them?
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