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<p dir="auto"><strong>ebhaugen02</strong> — <em>16 years ago(November 18, 2009 07:48 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Ok before I point this out I want to say that I love this movie.  Very very well done..i like all the sneaking around Redford does to rescue Bishop.  Ok now on to my main problem with this movie:<br />
Nathan Muir is forced to spend $282,000, his life savings, for the power outage in the grid that the prison is located in.  Ok, Nathan Muir, a mid-level CIA Operative, at his retirement, only has a life savings of $282,000?  Seriously?  The position he is in, and as long as he has worked for the CIA, he should be making $282,000/yr by that point and his life savings (and we dont talk about his pension - being a government job) should easily be over 1 Million.</p>
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<p dir="auto">In 1991.. Doubt it lol!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Why? Not everyone is great with money and many people don't save a bean. Just because he works for the CIA doesn't mean he's a boy scout in his private life</p>
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<p dir="auto">That's why in the cut scenes they show that he drives:<br />
southwards to Florida and the Carolinas instead<br />
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<p dir="auto">Yes, and sad.</p>
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<p dir="auto">There's some crazy stat that something like 50% of people about to retire have less than $40,000 saved. In that case, he's well above average, even in 2001 $.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Don't forget this is 1991 dollars here, not today.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Actually, NO he had never been divorced. He has one wife the entire time, revealed in last five minutes of movie. So forget the women's wrath<br />
Speaking of THE WIFE.he could have put a large amount of money In her nameor her native country of Korea.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Guys, Muir has been divorced. Your savings get slaughtered. Trust me, a woman's wrath is reason enough to be petrified.</p>
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<p dir="auto">$282,000 was the price Muir had set aside for his Bahama resort. Had nothing to do with life savings nor his annual salary.</p>
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<p dir="auto">First off, he would not be making $282k per year working for the government.  Check out the SES pay scales. Maximum of about $180k.<br />
Second, he has a pension that will sustain his lifestyle at 75% of prior income.  He's already made his large purchases: home,etc, so no more large capital expenditures with fresh cash are required.  $282k is gravy.<br />
I find it 100% realistic.</p>
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<p dir="auto">He can kiss that pension goodbye after the whole "Operation Dinner Out" fiasco an unsanctioned spec ops mission into mainland China that leads straight to him.  I thought about this alot, he'd probably be on the run for the rest of his life, but for a career-CIA guy, that wouldn't be tough, but then again you got the CIA looking for you, not some podunk Sheriff's department.  And he has about a 30 second head start from the point he leaves the building to the time they found out what he just did.<br />
This was an OK movie except for that, but then again, you gotta end the movie somehow, and it was a pretty cool way to end it, the minute details we're obviously going over with a fine tooth comb which is our luxury.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Stupid OP thinks this is a plot hole <img src="https://filmglance.com/discuss/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=8570fb93240" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /></p>
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<p dir="auto">The President has been making $400K a year since 2001, with another $169k in travel, expense, and entertainment accounts.<br />
Just thought I'd correct that.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Most people have money saved in two ways when you work for the government.  The first is personal savings; the second is government pension.  I could be wrong, but I doubt that you could do anything with the pension funds prior to actually terminating employment.  Maybe the feds had one or more plans you could move money around and inbetween, but as far as withdrawing them prior to retirement, I doubt you could touch those funds except for special circumstances - illness perhaps.<br />
Private savings?  Who knows how much someone like Muir could accumulate.  12 year old scotch isn't cheap.  Living in the DC area isn't cheap (which he was doing at least at the end of the film).  The Muir character struck me as someone who would spend some of his own money if that is what it took to accomplish a mission.<br />
he should be making $282,000/yr<br />
The President's salary isn't even that big now, let alone nearly 20 years ago.  You don't really know what you are talking about.  This is hardly a "hole" let alone a "big hole".</p>
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<p dir="auto">Money goes, no matter how much a person makes, they have the ability to spend it, gamble it, lose it.</p>
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<p dir="auto">The DIRECTOR of the CIA doesn't make $282K a year. Not even close.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Also remember it was just the money he was gonna spend on the actual property. Obviously he mustve had money to live on as well. It wasnt his whole savings.</p>
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<p dir="auto">283k was worth over double back then, i wouldnt mind retiring at 60 with a Porche, government pension, and half a million in the bank.</p>
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<p dir="auto">First of all none of the geeks who actually post on this thread regardless of how they respond will ever even have 282K let alone understand its worth today.  The movie was set in 1990 when money had a greater value (ever hear of inflation or hear your grandma talk about how a movie cost a nickel?) And before you start ripping me, I AM one of those geeks who is posting and doesnt have close to 282K</p>
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<p dir="auto">Sorry was tired, but even with all that bad grammar, i think it`s pretty clear to understand, that all that money was dirty money. As even guy in the movie said on phone "its not like its yours" Sad thing is, i have to explain that? If i wrote in greek, i would think you knew what i was trying to say?  Movie made it clear as day, i dont care how bad grammar was, like i said. The movie explained it with 2 words "DIRTY MONEY". I shouldnt have had to say any more then those 2 words? But i did, so what. If you could at least read those 2 words. That is all that was needed to explain this question. Cause if you were confused buy the movie and was that all his money? Then i dont think a scholar could have explained it to you? Cause shouldnt have even needed to be explained and no matter how bad my gramar was, i agree. "DIRTY MONEY" is all you had to take away from that. And those words were in there, that should have been enough, no matter how how bad or in arabic, if could make out just the 2 words "DIRTY MONEY" only words that really mattered, just like that guy said in the movie, i take heat for grammar, for explaing a dumb question? Wow?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Sorry was tired, but even with all that bad grammar, i think it`s pretty clear to understand, that all that money was dirty money. As even guy in the movie said on phone "its not like its yours" Sad thing is, i have to explain that? If i wrote in greek, i would think you knew what i was trying to say? Movie made it clear as day, i dont care how bad grammar was, like i said. The movie explained it with 2 words "DIRTY MONEY". I shouldnt have had to say any more then those 2 words? But i did, so what. If you could at least read those 2 words. That is all that was needed to explain this question. Cause if you were confused buy the movie and was that all his money? Then i dont think a scholar could have explained it to you? Cause shouldnt have even needed to be explained and no matter how bad my gramar was, i agree. "DIRTY MONEY" is all you had to take away from that. And those words were in there, that should have been enough, no matter how how bad or in arabic, if could make out just the 2 words "DIRTY MONEY" only words that really mattered, just like that guy said in the movie, i take heat for grammar, for explaing a dumb question? Wow?</p>
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<p dir="auto">I cannot begin to understand your comment.  There are SO many spelling errors and your continuity leaves a lot to be desired.<br />
Help stamp out and do away with superfluous redundancy</p>
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