Agreed. This show was timeless. I watch it over and over. I've recently watched it with my kids and now they are on their third time thru.

I think a big issue is that Fox is so big and has so many subsidiaries, it's not as simple as "Fox owns the rights."
After all, 20th Television was the distributor, but 20th Century Fox Television was the actual production company. Who knows what the contract details are.
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I didn't check, but every time the idea of renewal comes up on Reddit's /r/firefly subreddit, someone mentions that FOX still owns the rights
Maybe it's a holdover from when it was an issue. Or it could be people are confusing the rights to the original episodes (which FOX still owns) and the rights to make new episodes for TV.

I've seen a bear do things that even a bear wouldn't do.

I didn't check, but every time the idea of renewal comes up on Reddit's /r/firefly subreddit, someone mentions that FOX still owns the rights, and no one gets called out on it. So I took the liberty to state this as a fact.
Might not be right, but I would not know where to check
I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me to see me looking back at you

FOX still owns the rights.
I'm curious what your source for this is. When the show was first cancelled there was a lot of talk on this board about some other network or cable channel taking it. At the time it was said FOX would have to sell the TV rights because they owned those rights for 5 years. The five years passed long ago so I'm wondering what changed.

I've seen a bear do things that even a bear wouldn't do.

If it would be up to Nathan, it would be on our screens already. But it's up to FOX
FOX still owns the rights. Nathan can't buy it from his own pocket. For this to work, Netflix (or whoever else) needs to invest a lot of money first to get the rights - and FOX might not even be willing to sell for a reasonable amount.
If and only if Netflix (or whoever else) is able to purchase the rights, can we even start to dream about a renewal.
So don't blame Nathan. He is not able to do it alone. I'm sure he would if he could.
I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me to see me looking back at you

So, now that Filion is OUT of the Castle franchise, loaded with money he made from a show that probably should have only lasted a season or two, the question is:
will he keep his long-ago promise to produce a prequel to Firefly
? All the actors said they would be 'in', if ever the franchise was ever resurrected. Whedon's number is in the book. Here's hoping.
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Nathan's casting actually seems perfect to me. 'Soft' is a strange description for him because he has a real old Hollywood type of gentlemanly masculinity going on. You don't have to look like a hulking body-builder to project masculinity onscreen (something modern superhero and action flicks don't seem to get).
The captain's part is that more of a dreamer with lofty ideals than a fighter. Plus, Adam is so perfect in his comic relief role. The lead wouldn't give him as many opportunities for humour.

Just watched the pilot episode and feel everyone's great but Nathan Fillion seems miscast or not up to the tough captain part, was cast for his looks most likely. Adam Baldwin would have been better for that part going by what I've seen after the first show. Nathan just seems to soft. I've been an Alan Tudyk fan since I watched A Knight's Tale several years ago. I wasnt watching much tv when this show was on but saw it listed here on IMDB or possibly other places in the last 5 years. It seems it is pretty good for an old show..how the heck is 2002 old now, time flies!!!
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Yes I agree with your comment too.
In fact I noticed that on an episode of Big Bang Theory (not that I watch it often), I think it was Sheldon was talking about the dreadful decisions that had been made in history, and they all agreed the axing of Firefly was one of them.

Yes I agree too. In fact I noticed that on an episode of Big Bang Theory (not that I watch it often), I think it was Sheldon was talking about the dreadful decisions that had been made in history, and they all agreed the axing of Firefly was one of them.

I've watched the series over and over, more times than I can count. Used to catch lines that I missed. Not so much anymore, but I can still catch meanings that I missed before. Example: Rewatching Trash River keeps talking about how they can't trust "her" and makes several references. Jayne says can't trust any woman and River says that Jayne is a girls name. Seemed like just a funny jab at Jayne at first. Now I realize that she was talking about Jayne all along when she said "her".
To Love and win is the best thing. To Love and lose, the next best.

I just rewatched the series for the twentieth time or so and I'm still completely blown away by it. No other series comes to my mind which provides such a complex, yet believable world and such incredibly deep and fascinating characters after just 14 episodes. It easily challenges every other science fiction series out there for the title G.O.A.T. Its cancellation is probably the biggest shame in TV history and everybody even remotely responsible for this deserves to be fired instantly and to be banned from TV and movie industries for all eternity!
Couldn't agree more.
The attention to detail in Firefly is superb.
It's one of those things that simply weren't meant to be

I put off watching this show because it didn't think it would be very good. I am finally watching it and I was completely wrong. I am just 3 episodes in and I think this has got to be one of the best sci-fi shows ever made for all the reasons you stated. I am easily pulled into the story and am thoroughly entertained. Before I know it the episode comes to an end. Very well written, directed and acted.
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+1
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Well? Don't keep us in suspense. What's the line?
Can't stop the signal.

I also just rewatched for, as you say, at LEAST the twentieth time and I couldn't agree morebest show ever. I actually caught a line I've never really heard before, something dropped in so naturally, it has just gone unnoticedsomething that the character would just say in passingTHAT is the brilliance, these amazing, flawed, complex characters who we know as if they were real to us. Because they are.
It was finally everything Whedon deservedhis amazing vision and writing paired with a cast that never let him down for one scene or one line. What he didn't deserve was being aired on a network that didn't understand what they had. They ruined Firefly and then turned around and did an equal disservice to Dollhouse. Sigh.

It's like ending LOST or Breaking Bad after first season. Ending a show like that, It should be a crime and these people must punished.
As I understand canceling show is some political stuff.
But whay they continue as later or agree with an another Channel.
Ahhh, this will be a shame for every responsible men forever.

Shh. Adults are talking.
Let's be bad guys.

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That's what this feeling I've had for the past 14 years is.
Let's be bad guys.

You know what they say: Firefly is 10-11 hours of bliss and a life time of withdrawel.
I can vouch for that so far.

It was like the best parts of Doctor Who and Star Wars put together.I just watched the show and movie for first time and held off this long because i heard after watching you just get filled with rage and dispare that it was canceled , sadly true

Couldn't agree more, one of the best SciFi TV shows ever made. I appreciated the subsequent film Serenity coming along to wind up the stories as best they could, but it was something of a dressing on an amputation. Great characters, each with great storylines. I just don't know about some of these TV execs who make these decisions if they're paid more than ten dollars a week (and I suspect they are) they're not worth it.
Fortytwo? FortyTwo? what sort of puerile, pathetic, stupid answer is that? Everyone knows it's 43.