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<p dir="auto"><strong>mbenz413</strong> — <em>21 years ago(November 17, 2004 08:40 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">The Grudge definitely beats Ju-On, Grudge is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay scarier, the ghosts or whatever you wanna call them are way f*in scary, the ones in Ju-On are all stupid &amp; fake looking</p>
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<p dir="auto">The American version is Ju-on for Dummies. Everything is explaned or is tried to be explaned. It's turned into a typical <em>OMG JUMP</em> version of Ju-on and is simply just another crappy remake. It has the same faults as the American version of Ringu. I was scared at it at first but then it just started being boring. I've tried seeing it more than once but it's just boring. I would say it was turned into a more Western ghost story than where it originally came from.<br />
Ju-on is confusing, little is explained, you are placed into what the characters sees or feels and it's all about suspense. There's a point in how it's made. Not as big a bugdget but it shows that you can make a movie like that without an American budget. I can actually watch this one again and again and find something else I didn't notice. It intrigues me which is far better that <em>OMG JUMP</em> version.</p>
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<p dir="auto">and where did you see the mic?</p>
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<p dir="auto">accounting it was the same darector and all yet the remakes crap? right then! the original is s#it theres two points in this film where i actually saw the camera microphone i never laughed so much in my life .the 2004 remake is alot more better and scarier and alot more authentic looking.and how is it a low budget movie you loser and sarah michelle gellars performance in this movie was brilliant!!!!!!!so up ure u frickin looser<br />
"v-to the p- to the icky-to the ollard!"-little britains vicky pollard!</p>
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<p dir="auto">it's called a bigger budget dumb#$%^&amp;.  Of course ours looks better.  But we don't have any creative ideas and have to remake classics!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Her boyfriend didn't try to burn it down, the detective did.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I enjoyed both, actually.<br />
However in Ju-on, they don't explain that Toshio's mother was attemopting to have an affair with a teacher, and the possibility that Toshio may or may not have been Toshio's father's real son. They hint at it, but that's it.<br />
In Grudge, I disliked the whole "twu wub" deal with Sarah Michelle going to the haunted house AGAIN to save her boyfriend, who is stupid enough to try and burn it down. If it were me, I would be single again.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Woohoo! first IMDB post!<br />
Don't forget to smoke weed and watch J-horror</p>
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<p dir="auto">I prefer Ju On.<br />
Much better and also much more scary!</p>
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<p dir="auto">I've always found The Grudge to be better. Even though I saw the Grudge first I think it's much better. THe girl was done better in The Grudge, they did have a bigger budget on the film but I'm not going to say the others ones better just because they did well enough with a small budget. America had a bigger budget which made the movie a LOT better. So I always loved The Grudge.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I didnt like it either. I'd better watch Yu-gi-on than Ju-On. The scariest film of Asian horror movies was the Eye</p>
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<p dir="auto">I saw The Gurdge and loved it, one of my favorite movies..<br />
then I saw Ju-On.I didn't like it AT ALL<br />
bad actors and not scary at allToshio and Kayako were boring-lookingand it had too much bad scenes</p>
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<p dir="auto">And then there's a straight-to-video prequel called "Ju-Rei", even though it's not official. The director is different. Oh- and the movie SSSSUUUUXXX!!!<br />
Blood and Chocolate</p>
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<p dir="auto">The Grudge.alright<br />
Ju-on..INCREDBLE<br />
The Grudge was enjoyable. For a while I loved it. Until today. Today I saw Ju-on, and I must say, the people who wrote The Grudge screwed it up SO bad. They made Kayako stupid looking and unrealistic, made it WAY to much like The Ring, and lacked Toshio to much. It wasn't as scary, while now, after watching Ju-on, I can't type without shaking. They cut out the futuristic scene, the best part of the whole movie, and just screwed it up.<br />
So Ju-on. Obviously.<br />
Samara's my sister and Saddako's my cousin. Beware, their powers are alive in me.</p>
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<p dir="auto">The Second original is the best.<br />
This one (Ju-on the Curse) has the story of the teacher. Same actors who play Kayako &amp; Takeo in remake but different Toshio.<br />
Ju-on the Grudge is mostly the rest of the story but is much better &amp; a lot more easier to understand than the first one. It's Very, Very creepy. Same actors play Kayako, Takeo &amp; Toshio as the American version.<br />
The Grudge Remake.. Good until about 30 mins from the end then well it just sucked.<br />
Basically with the remake what they did was take teacher story &amp; the rest of it &amp; put them together.<br />
I haven't seen the other 2 yet so I don't know how they fit in.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Dude<br />
Actually there aren't 3 versions of this film ..<br />
ju-on the curse<br />
ju-on the curse 2<br />
ju-on the grudge<br />
ju-on the grudge 2<br />
the grudge<br />
So .. these 5 movies were made right ?!<br />
But these movies ain't different versions of eachother except for The Grudge which is a remake of the 3th movie, but also has hints &amp; scenes from the first 2 movies.<br />
Correct moi if i'm wrong !<br />
But if u wanna know which one is better u should see them yourself right ?! <img src="https://filmglance.com/discuss/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=8570fb93240" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=";)" alt="😉" /><br />
But if u wanna know which one I think is best i would say Ju-on The Grudge ( original )  But this is only because i've seen this movie first instead of Ju-On : The Curse 1 &amp; 2.<br />
U still dig whot i'm sayin'?!</p>
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<p dir="auto">I almost liked the American version of The Grudge better than the original. I don't feel that the added gore took away from the film at all, not did the removed sceen about the school girl who has the curse, whos friends come to visit her<br />
It was also nice to see that they tried to show a bit on the ghost family, and how they all died. Definatly better than the American Ring, but then again, this made by the same guys who made the original.<br />
My gripe with this is Gellar! I was shocked at what a good job she was doing in the film<br />
till the end where she faces off with the ghosts herself. Everything was going smoothly then, BAM, she seemed to drop out of character, magically cease to be totally horrified, and jumped into her Buffy character almost, or rather a sceen from Die Hard? I dunno, I just feel that she insisted upon doing that in the film, and the director, trusting her judgment, ok'ed it.<br />
All in all the remake was a great ride, just a BIG let down in the end.<br />
Anyhow, what you guys NEED to do, is get a hold of the Ju-On series:<br />
Ju-On - The Curse 1 and 2<br />
Ju-On - The Gudge 1 and 2.<br />
This is the REAL way to experience this movie!<br />
Also check out Dark Water, a film I personally feel is even better, even though it shows less. Amazing, but true!:)</p>
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<p dir="auto">Just wanted to know:<br />
Are you referring with "The Grudge" to the 2003 Japanese Movie "Ju-On: The Grudge" or the cheap, trying way to hard 2004 American Remake with Sarah Michelle "I'm so damn boring" Gellar?<br />
I haven't seen 2000's "Ju-On" yet, but I really liked the Japanese "Grudge" - that movie was rad!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Only thing I liked better about Ju-On was the cute sister who got sucked under her bed by Kayako.  She's hot.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I saw "The Grudge" firstI was so friggin bored throughout the whole film it wasn't funny. There were all of 2 parts which made me hesitate with a "possible" slight jolt. Two thumbs up for the background story that was thoroughly explained in the American version..however, I saw Ju-on today and liked it so much better. Ok yeah the make-up was cheesy given it's budget and all but, I liked the narrative of different stories, similiar to Tarantino's style. I also watched some of the directors comments on his montage for the deleted scenes.very insightful! I liked the fact that Ju-on was creepy but cheesy in the old school sort of horror way. "The Grudge" just seemed boring. I'd like to add that I am not big on subtitles, but most of the subtitled films I do watch, I tend to appreciate more than american films.<br />
Orion1975</p>
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