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<p dir="auto"><strong>cameron-kills-it</strong> — <em>18 years ago(February 01, 2008 01:18 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Between Ju-On and Ju-On The Grudge? I thought that  Ju-on and the American version, The Grudge, were the only movies made.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Thanks so much for the explanation. The titling of the films are confusing.<br />
I have had copies of all four Japanese versions and both American versions for a while, and can't for the life of me figure out the order and the context of any of them.  I now finally can put them together in some semblance of contextual order.<br />
in my opinion, the TV versions (parts 1 and 2) are the best since they are so stark and real and "flat" - who would have thought a made-for-tv horror anthology could have been so creepy and effective?  Unlike many of today's horror films that are shot mainly in darkness and shadows, Shimizu is a master at creating contextual horror even in broad daylight.  In juxtaposing time-lines, Shimizu creates visual tension and makes the audience work hard to get into the film, drawing them in only to deliver a one-two punch when the pay off, the reveal or the terror climaxes.<br />
Some shorts are more effective than others, and some ideas (especially in JuOn 4) are particularly potent.  Yes, American horror can learn a thing or two about the startling lack of blood in this horror series. It's just good old fashioned honest chills.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Nicee explanation. I wish I could find this version and the Ju-On 2 version somewhere, because to me, it was better than Ju-On: The Grudge 1 and 2, and The Grudge 1 and 2.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Thanks!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Nope. The start of the Ju-On/Grudge series begins with two horror shorts in a made-for-TV, 90-minute horror anthology called Gakko no Kaidan G ("School Ghost Story G", the G intended to mean Great). Shimizu wrote and directed for it. The two segments that eventually led to Ju-On are called Katasumi ("Corner" or as it was named on the director's cut of the US remake, "In a Corner") and 4444444444 (obviously, a lot of 4's, and it's a telephone number). Katasumi was the first appearance of Kayako; 4444444444 was the first appearance of Toshio and his cat. Both shorts appear on the director's cut DVD release of The Grudge, I believe.<br />
In Katasumi, two girls are caring for the rabbits after school one day. One girl cuts herself, and so the other goes to get her a bandage. When she comes back out, her friend is nowhere to be seen and, well, I won't spoil the rest unless asked.<br />
In 4444444444, a boy is riding his bike when a cell phone abandoned somewhere begins to ring. Curious, he finds and answers it, but only hears a cat meow. Eventually he hangs up. It keeps calling back, and then again, won't spoil it.<br />
After that, the first full-length Ju-On movie was made, and it had a sequel. These are the movies known as Ju-On and Ju-On 2, or sometimes as Ju-On: the Curse and Ju-On: the Curse 2. Both were made for TV. I can't really detail their plots because I haven't gotten to see either (I've only seen Katasumi, 4444444444, Ju-On: the Grudge, and The Grudge) except a bit of the beginning of Ju-On. To my knowledge they haven't been released in America and if anyone knows that they have, PLEASE TELL ME!<br />
Anyway the TV films were extremely popular, and so Shimizu was able to make the theatrical films. The theatrical films are the ones known as Ju-On: the Grudge and Ju-On: the Grudge 2.<br />
The American remakes are known as simply The Grudge and The Grudge 2. The first American remake was basically the same storyline as Ju-On: the Grudge with different people (aside from the Saeki family, of course), a few omissions, changes, and I think parts of it were drawn from the made-for-TV movies (but don't quote me on that; again, I haven't seen them).<br />
The Grudge 2, however, was very different from Ju-On: the Grudge 2. I haven't actually seen The Grudge 2 so I can't say a whole lot, but Shimizu himself said The Grudge 2 was very different from Ju-On: the Grudge 2; he said he didn't think he'd have directed it if it was the exact same story.<br />
So, I hope that clarified things<br />
Edit: Oh! I forgot to mention. There's also a Ju-On novel, simply called Ju-On, by Ken Oishi, and a manga called Ju-On: Video Side, by Miki Rinno. Both have been released in US. I haven't read the novel, but I have read the manga, and it's really good. I think it might include some things from the made-for-TV films, since I've seen a picture from Ju-On that looks exactly like a girl in one part of the manga (I won't go into details as to avoid spoilers, but this girl is, er, hard to mistake).</p>
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