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<p dir="auto"><strong>ecarle</strong> — <em>19 years ago(March 26, 2007 04:37 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">SPOILERS for BOTH "Manchurian Candidates":<br />
Probably my favorite movie  as a matter of personal influence from a young age rather than in direct comparison with modern films  is Hitchcock's "Psycho" of 1960.<br />
Gus Van Sant made a remake of "Psycho" in 1998 that is reviled by many "Psycho-philes."   I consider that movie an "experiment that succeeded by failing."  I don't like Van Sant's "Psycho," and his attempt to re-do Hitchocck "shot by shot" failed egregiously.<br />
But at least Van Sant's "Psycho" WAS "Psycho" as best as it could be: same plot, same shots, most of the same lines.  Van Sant tried to tell Hitchcock's classic tale (from a Robert Bloch novel) for a new generation.<br />
Meanwhile, Jonathan Demme and his writers went the whole other way when they remade the spectacular and historic "The Manchurian Candidate" from 1962.<br />
The idea seemed to be:   let's remake "The Manchurian Candidate" by ignoring absolutely, positively EVERYTHING about the movie  its plot, its setting, its era, its music, its characters  that made it such a great movie.<br />
There was a catch:   Demme was an Oscar-winning hotshot with "The Silence of the Lambs" on his resume.   HIS "Manchurian Candidate" had Oscar-winning star heavyweights Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep in it, and both were quite good here (with Streep earning an Oscar nomination.)<br />
Having two such big stars and such a respected director made the new "Manchurian Candidate" difficult to hate, but not really.   Matters got easy when at least one of the stars  Denzel  said he'd never even SEEN the original film, and hence didn't care about it.<br />
The original "Manchurian Candidate" was set in the fifties around the time of "the McCarthy era", but released in 1962, at a time when the Cold War was heating up (via the Cuban Missile Crisis) , and US vs. Russian tensions could legitimately have ended the world.<br />
"MC1" was made by liberal filmmakers (director John Frankenheimer, writer George Axelrod, star Frank Sinatra), and made its Joe McCarthy clone ("John Iselin") a right-wing buffoon with a scary right-wing nut wife (Angela Lansbury) but at least posited that the Soviet and Chinese Communists COULD be aggressors.<br />
"MC1" brilliantly worked out the idea of novelist Richard Condon:  Joe McCarthy's buffoonish attack on "communists" in the U.S. government could only be the work of a COMMUNIST agent sent to misdirect the U.S. from the REAL Commies looking to take over the nation from within, via brainwashing (a rumored action of the Korean War.)<br />
"MC1" presented its twisted political tale with a classic mix of the sadly tragic (the opening score was almost tearjerking in its suggestion of the sad events about to occur) the funny (the Chinese Commie bad guy chides the Russian Commie bad guy about "making a profit" off of their NYC mental hospital front for brainwashing), and the grandly surreal ("women's garden party speeches" which turned out to be dream memories of Manchurian brainwashing experiments;  the brainwash motif of using the Queen of Hearts and the phrase "Why don't you play a nice game of solitare?" as a killer's trigger.)<br />
Demme's "Manchurian Candidate" elected to totally eschew the Joe McCarthy references, Chinese and Russian Communists, the Queen of Hearts motif, the heartrending music, the "garden party" brainwashing sequences  even the then-new-and-classic furniture-destroying karate fight between Frank Sinatra's hero and Henry Silva's Korean villain in Laurence Harvey's Manhattan apartment.<br />
With all of those classic scenes and motifs gone,  Jonathan Demme's "Manchurian Candidate" ends up as a typically unbelievably and insanely overplotted 00's pedestrian thriller, somewhere between "Enemy of the State" and "Deja Vu,"  more Bruckheimer than Demme.   (The Janet Leigh character is really FBI?  The Sinatra character is programmed to kill TOO? And what else?)<br />
With the complex Cold War geopolitics of the original gone,  the new "MC" substitutes the overused, overdone Faceless Corporation as its villain (hello, Halliburton, which may be true, but still cliche)  and makes that villain rather toothless and easily overcome.   The Commies in the original were terrifyingly efficent.<br />
This new "Manchurian Candidate" is closer to the "faceless conspiracy" thriller "The Parallax View" of 1974, which was a good movie but which, like this one, lacked the heart and cinematic brilliance of "The Manchurian Candidate."  There's something gutless and uncommitted about the new "Manchurian Candidate" that makes it very aggravating to me.  Same old, same old.<br />
On the star acting:   Frank Sinatra gave, arguably, his greatest performance in "MC 1."   He knew President Kennedy wanted to see this movie, and helped get it made.  In return, Sinatra CONCENTRATED and gave us a fine portrait of a brainwashed solider whose mind is fighting the wash  he's a sweaty, quivering mass of melancholy and rage, in alternating doses.   Denzel, on the other hand, plays SOME of Sinatra's mental state, but feels more com</p>
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<p dir="auto">No, this was a fine film with some good insight about what's wrong with politics.<br />
'Go get an education, learn to talk you first language, lerarn to spell countries names' nidii-76417</p>
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<p dir="auto">I like the remake a lot more than the original (maybe in part because I saw the second remake first but I think there are a lot more reasons).<br />
Both movies are pretty blatant in their political ideas but in the original I really didn't see how the Communists would want to get an intensely (even if insincerely) anti-Communist politician elected.<br />
What was wrong with Marco also being programmed to kill? I liked that the remake cut out the buffoonish stepfather character and instead just made the war hero the candidate and Marco made sense as the assassin.<br />
The corporation may have been too faceless and underdeveloped but its motives and goals, increasing U.S. militarism for profit, were hardly bland.<br />
The remake also had some, and effective, surrealism although more focused around paranoia-Ben thinking he sees the implant doctor and then him really being there and Ben being lucky enough to find it soon after, Ben and Melvin repeating the same words about Shaw and Melvin imagining Shaw as with snakes coming out of his head, Shaw admitting that he knows what will happen on the mission but doesn't remember it happening, not revealing for a while that Ben got Shaw's implant out but kept it, the confusions and suspicions about if Rosie is part of the conspiracy or against it or just a checkout clerk.</p>
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<p dir="auto">@ecarle.Not to me.This is one of my favorite movies.I gave it a 9 rating.I like all of the performances.However Meryl Streep and Denzel Washington gave the best performances.That's just my OPINION and I'm not the least bit surprised people on IMDb would rate this so low.</p>
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<p dir="auto">@MrJJay.I agree with you.However I won't call the OP a troll.Everything else you said</p>
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<p dir="auto">The OP is clearly a troll. The fact that he called this movie the worst remake just because he didn't like it proves this.<br />
What kind of an argument is this? You want the exact same plot, scenes, characters? Watch the original one.</p>
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<p dir="auto">You just seem offended at the idea that it wasn't "evil" communists, because an "evil" corporation is too much of a stretch? rofl. Sounds like YOUR delicate senses have been offended, so I guess they achieved that much at least.<br />
No, I think corporations can certainly be evilthey've outlasted the Communists and the right wing as a power basebut Demme's Manchurian Candidate ruined EVERYTHING else, too:<br />
The music.<br />
The characters. (Sinatra's broken hero; Lansbury's evil plotterDenzel and especially Streep missed the point entirely.)<br />
The plot. (The one after the other twisty machinations at the end.)<br />
The great "garden party brainwashing scenes."<br />
The great Sinatra/Korean fight(simply removed from this version.)<br />
The mix of sadness and comedy and Goth.<br />
But more to the point, The Manchurian Candidate is timelessly of its time, when Communism was seen as End-of-the-World bad and yet right wingers capitalized on it to the ruin of good Americans.<br />
You just seem offended at the idea that it wasn't "evil" communists, because an "evil" corporation is too much of a stretch? rofl. Sounds like YOUR delicate senses have been offended, so I guess they achieved that much at least.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I liked it just fine. You just seem offended at the idea that it wasn't "evil" communists, because an "evil" corporation is too much of a stretch? rofl. Sounds like YOUR delicate senses have been offended, so I guess they achieved that much at least.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Though many of the arguments OP stated may be valid, I beg to differ with the opinion that (using) Faceless Corporation as its villain makes that villain rather toothless and easily overcome. The worst villains are those that are unseen, faceless, those inside us, inside the system. They are like cancer that cannot be beaten. Thats much more complex than having typical Hollywood good guys/bad guys dichotomy.<br />
Your point that the notion of the Russian/Chinese communists in the original film working together with the far-right American politicians is much more controversial and interesting is true, but only if you ignore this fact  what is really frightening in todays politics is that all the improprieties are pretty much common and acceptable (only hypocrites will state otherwise) and that the border between the good and the evil is completely blurred.<br />
Or you still believe that only the commies and far-right crazies are bad guys?<br />
<em><strong>70s - the time when even Stallone had to make a decent film</strong></em></p>
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<p dir="auto">The original MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE is a great film but Sinatra almost ruined it.</p>
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<p dir="auto">but at least Van Sant's "Psycho" WAS "Psycho" as best as it could be: same plot, same shots, most of the same lines. Van Sant tried to tell Hitchcock's classic tale (from a Robert Bloch novel) for a new generation.<br />
So your point is that it's ok if a movie is an exact copy of a previous one, only with sexier actors for the kiddies but reinterpreting a movie's plot is just plain wrong?<br />
It's like saying Nina Simone's version of "Ain't Got No" is bad because she's not pretending to sing like the guys in Hair did.<br />
For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco</p>
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<p dir="auto">I usually hate remakes and haven't seen the original of this but I thought I'd add my thoughts.<br />
The OP mentions the Psycho remake at least staying true to the original and so it isn't as big of a failure compared to this. I have to disagree. The reason the remake of Psycho failed in my opinion was exactly that reason, it was too similar, it was a shot by shot remake.<br />
As the guy previously has posted, remakes should try and bring something new to a certain degree. It's in my opinion the problem with remakes and why they usually fail - they either change too much and ruin the original or change nothing and what's the point in watching a remake if it's just the same film.<br />
I do intend to see the original but found the remake really interesting and well acted. I think a lot of people might actually like the film a lot more if they see it as something else instead of a remake.</p>
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<p dir="auto">So the idea is that the more a remake imitates the original, the better it is? Thats kinda absurd, though - I mean, whats the point in remaking it all if you dont bring anything new to the table besides the most superficial elements such as clothing styles and merely settle for copying the earlier film as best you can? Demmes film should have arguably diverted even further from Frankenheimers.<br />
And this 2004 TMC, although vastly inferior to the original, is actually one of the best remakes Ive seen. It does admittedly dumb things down a good deal in changing the whole method in which matters are presented (via lots of blunt exposition here), rendering many things boringly obvious. It also eliminates the humorous, absurdly satirical streak that the the original strived on - as well as the surreal tinge by explicitly stating what Frankenheim administred without explanation. But the remake eventually does grow up to be its own thing and present a different kind of a story pretty well. Even if the acting, and often the dialogue, are also somewhat weaker (in particular, Harvey simply blows Schreiber away and hammy, sub-par - by her standards - Streep never really stands up to Lansburys exceptional performance).<br />
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan</p>
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<p dir="auto">This film is actually quite ahead of its time. With such high profile actors involved you know that is no coincidence. This film isn't about what might be in the future, it's about what's going on right now. Maybe not an mk ultraed president, but definitely a puppet for the money power.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I thought Streep did an excellent imitation of a Hillary Clinton-like politician.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Oscar-winning star heavyweights Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep in it, and both were quite good here (with Streep earning an Oscar nomination.)<br />
Actually, Streep did not earn an Oscar nomination for this role, and there's a reason for that.  Streep was solid in the part, but she was not as good as Angela Lansbury (who was nominated for an Oscar for the original movie).</p>
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<p dir="auto">Good analysis.  The original is so much better in so many dimensions.  Better actors, better direction, better script, better choice of scenes, better effects, better conclusion, better depth of characters, and much more suspense.  Whoever thought that the movie could be successfully remade was dreaming.  The movie did not need to be remade.  Good grief, the original had Sinatra, Harvey, Landsberry, and Leigh!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Are ya'll serious in saying this isn't a remake? If it isn't then don't use the same name or use the same basic plot line or have the extremely main characters have use the same names!! A group of men were brainwashed and one of them made out to be a herohaving the last name Shaw (ahemso far, just like the original)in the first movie they were fighting in Korea, the second in Desert Storm (which is logical because it's a newer movie). The mother is a commie in both movies, has incestual feelings for her son and kisses him in both movies. Ok, I could go onit is a remakethey just tweeked some things here and there, but, it's a remake, plain and simple.</p>
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<p dir="auto">well it might fail as a remake but i have to say - sometimes i think that people get way too involved with whether a movie is a remake, a sequel, based on a novel etc. and not trying to see it on its own.<br />
i guess sometimes it's legitimate to say a movie has failed because it doesn't live up to the original. and i guess it's very subjective where to draw the line whether that makes sense or not. but with this movie and from how you describe the original MC, it sounds like it's so detached from the original that it makes sense to judge it on its own.<br />
and i have to say i didn't see the original but the story of this remake i was amazed by how much of what is portrayed reflects what is going on (and partly just probably going on) in US politics/military nowadays. well not just the US, i suppose<br />
and i'm wondering if we'll see 30 years from now that there was more truth than fiction to this story of if it will be clear that all the connections between big companies and politicians and "fighting terror" and so on really were just coincedental and it never was about slowly creating a totalitarian regime and/or a worldwide empire<br />
so while the original MC had a story that would probably upset me because of its propagandish content (at least it sounds like that), this remake has one that is not about substantiating prejudice against the "bad" people from [insert one of the "bad" countries here] but about taking a good look at yourself for once. i think that's actually a pretty big improvement - if the original really is the way it sounds.</p>
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<p dir="auto">ROFL. WHAT?!<br />
The only one nation doing that, since world war 2, is the united states, <em>beep</em></p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1994433</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1994433</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 07:42:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SPOILERS for BOTH &quot;Manchurian Candidates&quot;: on Mon, 04 May 2026 07:42:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>OlLineRebel</strong> — <em>16 years ago(May 22, 2009 06:58 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">'Joe McCarthy's buffoonish attack on "communists"'<br />
Too bad it was all TRUE.  Buffoon?  Whatever.<br />
And there's nothing wrong with getting communists out of the government.  Communists by definition want to overthrow everything not communist.<br />
Off the soap box.<br />
As to the movies - yes, it seems the concept changed a little too much.  I just watched the original and have never seen the new, but from reading reviews and comments, it seems it's focused on EEEEVIL "corporations".  As if they have much control over anyone.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I'd say that it is indeed a very poor remake, but as the previous poster stated there are far worse remakes out there<br />
Wicker Man is a perfect example<br />
I'd also add Van Sant's Psycho remake</p>
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<p dir="auto">First of all, director Jonathan Demme specifically stated in a pre-release interview that the movie is NOT A REMAKE of the original one. It does have elements in common with the original version: a political background, a domineering mother and a brainwashing angle. Both movies are based on the book but the 2004 version is a very liberal interpretation of the main ideas that were present in the book. So you're completely injust to call this movie a remake rather than a re-interpretation or re-imagining - if you will- of the book.<br />
Second of all, I find it deeply sad that you can not show appreciation for the modern elements that are cleverly weaved into the 2004 storyline. Instead you expect a replay of exactly the same story with other actors; what in god's name is the point of that?? It's not like the original one is so old that it's unwatchable and it needs to be re-shot with different actors. I must say I'm baffled by your post and can not believe dinosaurs like you still exist. Go with the time and stop living in the past. No offense, but it's real easy to criticise modern movies but real hard to acknowledge that maybe there are some good movies that were made after the year 2000.<br />
Third of all I think, and many will agree, that the movie is near to brilliant, especially if you don't try to compare too much with the original movie( what you obviously did). If you had kept an open mind you would have seen that this is a daring political and psychological thriller that deals very much with the current political situation and frightening advanced technology. Not only is the movie very entertaining, it's also a reminder of the subjectivity of the media and politics and the dangers of a presidential hirarchy. Not to mention that the story is fresh and the acting performances are marvellous with the exception of a few less important roles. I could go on and on about why this movie is more then excellent but I'll not bore you any longer since you obviously don't have an open mind.<br />
Kind regards<br />
^^This. I agree, great post. I really liked both the original &amp; the remake. OP's one of those guys that don't think anything remade can be good or that they need to do EXACTLY what the original did to be good at all.<br />
"I am the ultimate badass, you do not wanna <code>*beep*</code> wit me!"- Hudson in Aliens.</p>
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