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<p dir="auto"><strong>t_smitts</strong> — <em>15 years ago(November 28, 2010 11:17 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">"Andy in C Minor":<br />
As all fans of the show know, the "best friend doer" is easily the show's most notorious cliche.  A slightly lesser-known one is the suspect who expresses disinterest in something in their first interview but, as we later see, really wanted that something, and later killed the victim over it (Karen and her kid in "The Good-bye Room", Jacob and going back to the Amish in "Running Around", George Watson living in a Libertyville home in "Libertyville").  Fitting both of those cliches, Carlos was kind of an uninspired choice for doer.  A far better choice, IMHO, would've been Leah, the semi-stalker girl who later got a cochlear.<br />
Picture this:  We end up discovering that Leah got her cochlear<br />
after<br />
Andy got his, rather than before.  She thought since he liked Emma, maybe he'd like her again if she could hear.  Of course he doesn't, so now she's undergone this procedure, leaving her not totally fitting in the hearing world<br />
or<br />
the deaf world, for a boy who doesn't even want her.  Frustrated, she clocks him in the head with the metronome.  What do you think?<br />
"Schadenfreude":<br />
Again, best friend doer.  Meh.  What if it was the wife of the man had died on Steven's table?  Maybe since her husband died, she wanted Steven to feel the same loss.<br />
"Wednesday's Women":<br />
I knew early on it wouldn't be any of the women, but what if it was the doer's sister instead?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Wednesday's women= I agree that they put Jim here from nothing. He was, indeed, one of the worst doer, evil racist and too proud for letting a housewife stand up to him in front of his friends..</p>
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<p dir="auto">I don't want him to actually be guilty but I wish It's Raining Men had explored Russ (Artie's fiancee) as a suspect more. I loved what we saw of him and thought he had an interesting motive. Here's what I would have done:<br />
The detectives find out that Russ was seen at the scene of the crime not long before Jeff was killed and question him about it. Russ reveals that he went to Jeff's (that's where he was killed, right?) and, in a drugged out state, begs him not to out Carson to the public. He depends on Carson and will be ruined if Carson's career is destroyed. Jeff tries to convince him that it will be good for homosexuals in the long run but it doesn't seem to work. Russ gets angry and it looks like he may get violent but Jeff calms him down by telling him that he could have a better life than the one he has. He knows a place where that can help him get off drugs and that way he can live his own life independent from men like Carson. Russ leaves.<br />
Back in the present, Russ reveals that hearing about Jeff's murder the next day inspired him to turn his life around so his death wouldn't be in vain.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I agree that Forensics should have a different doer. Alyssa to me would have been the perfect choice as she viewed Dartmouth as being the ticket to all her dreams and Luke ruining them.<br />
Glory Days doesn't bother me as much.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I see. You try to scold us for acting on emotion, then you turn around and use the word "bitch" as often as the word "the". Get over yourself.<br />
Back on topic, I wish that Glory Days and Forensics had different doers. Especially with Forensics, since I called it within the first two minutes of the episode.<br />
Sanity is like parachutes: just because you lost yours doesn't mean you can have mine.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Maybe not Two Weddings, since it is kind of a "lighter" episode and at the end they can all have fun and not put a damper on Louie's big day. But Yo Adrian did need one. It ends up being practically a Darwin Award and you lose a great deal of sympathy.<br />
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Not every episode needs a doer.  Sometimes, no one is directly responsible.<br />
(Bitter much, d henderson?)</p>
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<p dir="auto">Good call, plus my gripe there is the crimal underuse of Theresa Russell. It's shameful enough that she doesn't receive any special credit ("and", "with", etc). If you can land an actress like her, make the most of it!<br />
Also some episodes (namely Yo Adrian and Two Weddings) should have actually had doers.<br />
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!</p>
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<p dir="auto">I wish that in "One Fall" the killer of the wrestler had been his ex-wife.<br />
The ex-wife in this is such an ungrateful bitch. She didn't like him working on the wharves, but when he becomes a wrestler, and bonds with his son, which is what she wanted, she doesn't want him to be a wrestler either, and takes his son away from him.<br />
She seems like many ungrateful bitches who are never happy, no matter what their husband does.<br />
I think that the bitch should have been the killer, she go to jail, and be seperated from her son, which would serve her right.</p>
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<p dir="auto">yes. that would have been better</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1995586</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1995586</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 08:05:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;Andy in C Minor&quot;: on Mon, 04 May 2026 08:05:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>t_smitts</strong> — <em>13 years ago(July 17, 2012 11:51 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Actually, I tended to pretty good at guessing the doer.  ("Static" and "Soul" are two major exceptions where I was totally off in my predictions, which is why I really like them).  Yes, making the most unpleasanr or unsavory character is seldom the most dramatic choice, but that doesn't necessarily mean the character who turns out to be the doer was the best choice.<br />
I think in some of the ones I suggested, I think there's a least one person who would've been either more surprising or more dramatic.  For example having Andy's best friend Carlos in "Andy in C Minor" was kind of lame, because the "best friend doer", as most fans know, is one of the show's biggest cliches.  I suggested what if Leah had gotten a cochlear, thinking Andy would've liked her, only to find he's still into Emma.  Now she's gotten this implant that's left her not quite fitting into the hearing or deaf worlds for a boy who doesn't even want her, and kills Andy out of frustration.  Isn't that more interesting?</p>
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<p dir="auto">A lot of people are saying that the killer should be another character in the episode- often someone they don't like.<br />
But the very fact that people are saying that X should be the killer, instead of Y, is what makes it effective. The show wouldn't be nearly as suspenseful if you could easily guess the killer.<br />
I often could identify who the killer would be. Firstly, you eliminate the obvious- bullies, rivals etc. Except in rare cases, the killer was often out of left field, and was far less obvious.<br />
I noticed that, when suspects were interviewed, someone would say a throwaway line, and I thought "I wonder why they had them say that?". Later, Lily would remember that this person said that line, ad would crack the case.<br />
I became quite good at guessing the killer, and got it right 80% of the time.<br />
There are a lot of red herring thrown into this show, to throw you off-track, but don't ignore them. Often what seems like a red herring turned out to point to both the killer and the motive.<br />
One example was "Superstar". I found it strange that the reporter called everyone "champ". It is a term of greeting, but it seemed strange. Later, a strange phone call makes Lily realise who is responsible, because the person on the phone said "champ", the same expression as the sports reporter.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1995584</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1995584</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 08:05:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;Andy in C Minor&quot;: on Mon, 04 May 2026 08:05:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Ocean_Breeze</strong> — <em>13 years ago(July 04, 2012 10:44 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Wishing was the first thing that popped into my head.<br />
You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same.</p>
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<p dir="auto">COuld someone please re-explain me why Kitty killed Lindsey?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Ironic since she was still having an affair with the man she was suing. Kitty wasn't a huge shock to me as Lindsey's killer. She was a good "friend" because she thought once Lindsey got back on her feet,she'd have her ticket into the world of the rich and famous.<br />
Lindsey finally saw through her..and that's when she got killed.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Same latter part of the post as the one I put up for Your most hated Cold Case Killers:<br />
Garrett Caine ("Ravaged") - The episode reminded me too much of a great story I read, especially the dog and her trading her body parts. He was such a freaking misogynistic <em>beep</em> that I wished he did it, so that he'll go away and pay. It was funny because I didn't even recognize Steve Sandvoss who I was really in <img src="https://filmglance.com/discuss/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2764.png?v=8570fb93240" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--heart" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="&lt;3" alt="❤" /> with before. Ha<br />
Diane Moore ("Schadenfreude") - Again, she didn't do it, but I could pin the whole thing on her. I didn't like how they made it Kitty since she was always such a good friend all for that 'twist'. Just because Diane's husband died on the table didn't make it the doctor's fault, much less her being so bitter and vengeful that she destroyed two lives. I wished she did it just so she can get her just desserts.</p>
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<p dir="auto">One thing about Wishing it kind of gives away the ending at the start unless there is some twist coming.I know it's a popular episode it's well done but if it wasn't I think viewrs would complain about that more.</p>
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<p dir="auto">There is an old Janis Ian song with a line that pretty much sums up, IMO, Cold Case perps:<br />
"If my enemies don't get me, my friends will know how."<br />
<img src="https://filmglance.com/discuss/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=8570fb93240" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /></p>
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<p dir="auto">I don't think so, didn't he get arrested?</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1995576</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/1995576</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 08:05:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;Andy in C Minor&quot;: on Mon, 04 May 2026 08:05:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>sheilagermaro</strong> — <em>13 years ago(July 03, 2012 06:10 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Missy's death in Roller Girl was ruled accidental. The friend was just signing his sworn statement.<br />
Sanity is like parachutes: just because you lost yours doesn't mean you can have mine.</p>
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<p dir="auto">In the case of "serial killer" episodes like "Mindhunters", "The Woods", "It Takes a Village", "Sabotage", and "The Road", it's generally written less as a whodunnit than it is learning why the doer started killing and how to save their latest victim.<br />
I agree about "Andy In C Minor" though (see OP)<br />
I'd also add "Roller Girl".  Wish it had been ANYONE but the boy who was her friend.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Time To Crime.I saw if for the first time today.I couldn't help but thing anyone else but the brother!<br />
Andy In C Minor</p>
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<p dir="auto">The Red and The Blue - Had to throw that one in. For me, this was one of the bigger ones. Yes Dusty was a addict but that motive is weak compared to Edie's. Not only was Truck dumping her and going back to his wife, he was going to abandon their career. For a narcissist like Edie,that would have been too much to take. She should have been the one pulling the trigger,not Dusty. Dusty should have been the one who had kept his mouth shut in exchange for being bribed with drug money.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Definitely "Wishing".  That episode broke my heart.<br />
"Committed" was the other one that I truly felt would have been better without a "Lets put them out of their misery" treatment</p>
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