I cant agree more. I was ready to write a comment after seing the s02e04 episode which was the dumbest and most expectable episode so far and then I saw your post

Hey there!
Funny you should mention this, cos my particular 'hate' was Maggie! She was just soooo bloody thick at times that I wanted to smack her round the head!
The moment when they're in the dressing room and Andy has to sign the picture but can't remember the make-up girl's name springs to mind.
Andy - "You know I didn't know her name! The marker pen was an excuse to get out of the room and ask someone!"
Maggie - [with dumb grin on her face] "That's clever!"
Me - "AAARRRRRRRGGGGHH!!! You DUMB BITCH!!!"
Just saw the BAFTA episode, she seems obsessed with Andy's virginity (loss of), and subsequently opens her dumb gob to his ex-girlfriend and yet only realizes her words are inappropriate when she sees she's offended her Yet again, YOU DUMB BITCH rings through my head!
I don't understand how Andy would keep her as a friend, or anybody else for that matter! In fact, she probably hasn't got any
Anyway, loved the show, but just couldn't help feeling angry every time Maggie (especially her) and Darren did beep stooopid stuff!!! She just had no brains whatsoever! Anyways, that's quite enough of the exclamation marks now(!)

I don't mind the stupidity of the characters. I only mind the clichic nature of the jokes. Too many "can't get laid" and "gay" type jokes, like the second season episode 5.
But the agent is the funniest thing ever - he made me explode in laughter a couple of times, like out-of-the-blue, completely unexpected.
When he talked about "mongoloids", is when I realized that there's more to this show than I originally thought. A brilliant guy.
I think he's one of the writers of 'The Office', and makes a small almost-cameo appearance in that show as well, but he's only funny in this one. He talks really fast, but he also talks really straight, which is refreshing. I wish everyone talked like that, without gimmicks, without programmed behaviour, without "politeness" or other lie-based surface crap.
Just direct, honest and straight talk, using the real names of things, not caring if someone gets 'offended' or 'hurt', just saying what he wants to say, innocently and openly.
He's an awful agent (why would ANYONE employ him? I don't think that would never happen in the real world, especially after they find out how bad he is. The reputation would be ruined, after the word spreads around).
But he's sometimes really funny, and that's why I don't mind that he's so 'stupid' or maybe more like 'socially ignorant' or something. He doesn't seem like he's just completely stupid, like the hag (why would he hang around her, when all she does is screw up everything for him?) - but doggone it, that agent in his 'social ignorance' is just the funniest thing, sometimes.
Just listen to him talk about them mongoloids.. ever since, I have adapted that word and try to apply it as much as possible. We have to fight political correctness, that's trying to suffocate and censor everyone, although every human being has total freedom of speech (even when they have consented to not being able to use that right).
Too bad that most discussion forums and other similar places do not respect this fundamental right. Every friggin' thing is full of moderators and censorship, and it's getting worse all the time. Soon you can't even write normal english anymore, because you have to be sooo careful as to which words are on the 'forbidden' list, dmn it!
And we all know that's just bllsht!

I really did enjoy this show, I love the comedy style Ricky Gervais brings to any project. I do, however, see the point about how sometimes the characters utter stupidity in every single situation did at times become annoying. Maybe I just wanted to see Andy catch a break for once, and just when you think it may happen in swoops his agent or Maggiebut that is just my 2 cents :). All in all great show, absolutely loved it, and I am excited to give Derek a watch next.

But its the same with every high class comedy isn't it.
seinfeld
curb
peep show
arrested development
the office UK
trailer park boys.
always sunny
every one follows a formula of putting people in situations which most of us would never get in to. However all the shows are hilarious. And get close to reality but heighten it.

The Maggie character was way over the top with her stupidity and lack of self awareness, especially in the second series where she ruined some of it. In the first season she was a lot more subtle and endearing.

Ah yes America.the hotbed of such subtle and intellectually sophisticated comedy.

Man, you'd probably have a terrible time watching The Avengers or Inception or something like that.
Of course it's unbelievable sometimes. That's how entertainment works. Suspend your disbelief for a bit. Relax. If we were always concerned about what was "real" we'd all just watch Antiques Roadshow or nature specials.

dude have you seen Seinfeld? granted it was quite funny, but the absurdity in some scenes(a lot, actually) makes me want to choke jerry and larry david, sometimes.

Maggie was really stupid. I suppose the actor behind her is a brilliant one, because I wanted to smack her face in when she tried to apologise for the "he's too gay" thing. I mean, I recently rewatched this episode and thought that she was telling Damon about it because she wanted revenge on Andy (he hurt her a bit just earlier). When she said she didn't mean it it came as a surprise for me

one thing I found odd was how darren & maggie either mention or acknowledge how dumb & low-brow the show is, yet they're even more stupid than the content of the show.
"Throughout the show there were too many times when they shouldn't have talked and did"
That's kind of the point though. They shouldn't, but they do. I don't understand how you can complain about a character's stupidity in a comedy series, considering a large majority of comedies, modern & old, have a token braindead character, or more. it's just part of the humour, why does everything have to be hyper-realistic? I think the show's a nice blend of heart-wrenching pathos & plain old silliness.

You need to watch a few episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and then come back here and tell us that "would never happen here".

the show works for me but it's ok if you think it's stupid and can't laugh at it. It reminds me of Larry David.so uncomfortable that it can be hard to watch but Ricky makes me laugh more than Larry David but it is still based in situations that have really really really stupid characters that cannot consistently be that stupid all the time. It still makes me laugh.

I just found it to happen way to often you know? I understand that often times people dont do what needs to be done but it just seemed like it was too convenient and unrealistic most times.

"Throughout the show there were too many times when they shouldn't have talked and did, or times when something needed to be said and they don't talk."
^ True, never seen a human with these characteristics.

Yes im a teen boy.

7 months to reply? So you're juvenile AND lazy.

Wha? Your the one who steered the convo towards teen boys.

One thing's for sure. You're a lousy judge of comedy.
Taking a quick look at some of your other posts, and it's just the usual juvenile and sophomoric stuff that teen boys talk about. How hot an actress is, and why you're upset they weren't naked in a movie.
Classy stuff.

maggi ement to camp, its just her way of sayingit, whichis true of a lot of people i have no problem with gay people but i cant stand those that are too camp. maggie just isnt subtle about letting the guy know it.
andy acted different because fame was going to his head he was that desperate to keep his fame and get more of it it he did things that seemed odd it isnt unbeliveable that someone would act like this and the agent has all been the same hes inept and an idiot.
if you have never seen these characteristic in human behaviour i suggest you get out more.
the characters had to evolve and i think it was done well.
i personally think some of it maybe a british thing as i always think the acting is better in british comedies than american ones. with a few exceptions

Ya but shows like Seinfeld were meant to be over the top and crazy. This show actually tackles somewhat serious things and is obviously supposed to be set in the lives of real, blue collar type people (even if he just recently landed a tv show).

1. The casual form of "yes" is spelled "yeah," not "ya."
2. No disrespect intended, but your youth is showing. Nothing in this show suggests that its characters are "blue-collar." Andy, Maggie, and Darren aren't earning heaps of money and they aren't living super-trendy lives, but they're college-educated and they value creativity over conventionality; they're not working in factories or the modern equivalent of factories (mindless call centers, big-box stores).
3. This show is very much in the vein of a non-laughtrack Seinfeld, or of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Better Off Ted, Arrested Development all shows that feature characters who are at least somewhat dislikeable, in ostensibly real but ultimately improbable and highly orchestrated situations.
   . . . Maybe the cultural differences (life in London) + your relative youth made it harder for you to discern the satire, but satire it was. It was not a "semi-serious comedy." It was a satirical jab at celebrity and the quest for celebrity. It also raised questions about serious stuff what makes a meaningful life, how do we live with the consequences of compromising OR of maintaining our integrity, to cite just two but so does every comedy, whether it's asinine/broad, like Married With Children and Are You Being Served?, or witty and insightful, like Frasier. Everything raises questions.
   "All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."

Not really no.
look at curb..
very similar to extras in the way it shows us real people but follows the same Seinfeld humour with the added reality extras vibe.
Seinfeld started of as a show about a real,comedian and then heightened it..
curb and extras moved that idea forward and added more heightened real characters

Ya but shows like Seinfeld were meant to be over the top and crazy. This show actually tackles somewhat serious things and is obviously supposed to be set in the lives of real, blue collar type people (even if he just recently landed a tv show).

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