I'm very surprised this hasnt been an issue on the show. Even on Friends there was the issue when Monica wanted to move in with Chandler. Rachel had to go simply because it was essentially Monica's apartment, but not without a huge fight first. You would think with Sheldon being who he is he would put up a fight for that apartment. I just know that pre-Amy Sheldon would have absolutely none of this.
And I know,I know.. we have enough issues as it is and Sheldon complains so much as it is but.. he's still him for petes sake and some of us has actually watched this show from the start and loved it because of him being who he was.

justabitofeverythingplease
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so my guess is he hasn't moved out officially.
No.
As far as he is concerned, imo that is, he is still testing the living with Amy.
Yes.
I'm guessing he is going to want his apartment back.
It was his and Leonard's apartment. Leonard never officially and completely moved out.
Leonard and Penny don't want to move so that causes drama.
I don't know. I assume that they will just go back to the arrangement that they had before in which the three of them share the two apartments. Or four of them if Amy is still around.
why is Sheldon's apartment better than hers?
It is much larger.
Penny will then call the whole thing off and everything will eventually stay as it was before Sheldon and Amy started their testrun.
Sure. Why not?

Well, Sheldon wanted to keep his Spot so my guess is he hasn't moved out officially. As far as he is concerned, imo that is, he is still testing the living with Amy. For me it makes perfect sense for Sheldon to completely expect that Leonard and Penny will willfully move out once he decides he wants to live with Amy permanently, I'm guessing he is going to want his apartment back.
Leonard and Penny don't want to move so that causes drama.
I could see Amy wanting Sheldon to move into her apartment and causing drama because why is Sheldon's apartment better than hers? To which Sheldon has an explanation that makes perfect sense to himself and no sense at all to anyone else but it will be something like his Spot.
Raj is getting all excited and gonna butt in wherever he can.
Howard is upset because Sheldon and Leonard's apartment always sort of felt like the mancave he doesn't have (at least since he moved in with his wife) and that now he has to visit Sheldon and Amy with Bernadette because Amy and Bernadette are friends and Leonard isn't there anymore as a buffer so Sheldon is gonna die if this is all going to happen. Bernadette gets an evil grin on her face when Howard says this and starts acting overly sweet to Amy.
Penny will then call the whole thing off and everything will eventually stay as it was before Sheldon and Amy started their testrun.

justabitofeverythingplease
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Leonard and Penny are going to protest,
Maybe Leonard and Penny have gotten used to having the additional space and would be reluctant to give it up. Maybe not.
Sheldon's apartment is small for two couples, but when you add in Penny's apartment and think of the two apartments as one large apartment, it works. Each couple has their own bedroom in a different apartment, and they have a large space in common.
If Sheldon now has Amy to look after him not clear to me at this point Penny and Leonard might prefer to get a place completely of their own. I don't know.
I also am not looking forward to drama about who gets to keep Sheldon's apartment. Partly because there isn't a good answer to that in spite of what the OP thinks.

Sheldon was the one to suggest a neutral environment and that's why he was the one to move out of there during the test run. If Sheldon wants to go live there with Amy and wants Leonard and Penny out, I missed him saying that on-screen. To me it would make more sense for Sheldon wanting to move back into his own apartment, but I'm not at all looking for the drama it will create between them because ofc Leonard and Penny are going to protest, Sheldon and Amy just move in anyway and overcrowd the place making Leonard and Penny flee to Penny's old place and I have no idea how else it could go in the BBT universe.

emilyrose15
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It didn't have to be about who rented it alone, it can be about more, it's called having a discussion.
Except that the OP did not seem to be trying to start a discussion. He was laying down a universal law that the apartment belongs to the first person who was there.
Even to the extent of suggesting that the writers had forgotten that it was Sheldon's apartment first.
Who "owns" the apartment, if anyone, is an issue that has not as yet come up. I hope that it doesn't, because it is a really uninteresting thing to argue about.

Conversation evolves and also people could put something as an initila post, but they have other opinions and views on the same topic. It didn't have to be about who rented it alone, it can be about more, it's called having a discussion.

mybabyblue
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No they haven't suggested it and that surprises me.
So you want to argue about what should happen
if
the issue comes up?

No they haven't suggested it and that surprises me.

mybabyblue
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Well if Sheldon wants to stay and keep his room, he should be able to do so.
I understand that is your attitude. Do you understand that some people will agree with you and some people will emphatically disagree with you. It is not a universal truth that the person who had the apartment first gets to keep it if there is a disagreement. You do not seem to understand that.
And that's just the impression I got from him in the last episode.
I don't think we know what Sheldon wants. I don't think we know where Amy fits into this at this point.
If Sheldon wants to keep the big apartment, Penny and Leonard can move back to her place but still share the large common area. We know that arrangement works.
None of this comes up except that, to my surprise,
Sheldon and Amy were talking about getting some other place of their own.
At that point you started to insist that Leonard and Penny should move
even though that has not come up.
I do not believe that Sheldon and Amy have ever suggested that Leonard and Penny should move somewhere else. Do you disagree?
Do you really not understand how little sense you are making?

Well if Sheldon wants to stay and keep his room, he should be able to do so. And that's just the impression I got from
him in the last episode. But, of course, I might have misinterpreted that.

mybabyblue
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However, since Sheldon did live there first it would make sense to me that Leonard and Penny move out.
Penny and Leonard should move out even if Sheldon and Amy want to move out?
You are quite happily leaving out what the characters want. Your conception of who "owns" the apartment is dictating what would make sense to you without any regard for what the characters want.
And you don't have any idea how ridiculous that is.
The issue of who gets the apartment has not come up yet.
And here you are creating a dispute about something that is not at this point an issue. Maybe it will be an issue in the future; maybe it won't. We don't know, but it doesn't seem to be an issue now except to you.
What would make sense to you is really of no importance. What is important is what the characters want. Are you not able to understand that?
Your conception of the rights about the apartment are completely beside the point
until the issue comes up in the series.
Seriously, sometimes it's like the writers don't know their own shows half as well as the audience.
It is clear that the writers know the series a hell of a lot better than you do. What an arrogant, and really dumb, remark that was.

I'm all for working things out mutually. However, since Sheldon did live there first it would make sense to me that Leonard and Penny move out.

mybabyblue
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Again, it seemed weird to me that they were telling Sheldon that he won't be living there and therefore shouldn't care what happens to his room as if his moving out were already a given.
I agree,
but what the hell does that have to do with your original post.
The characters seem to be working it out in a mutually agreeable way, and you seem to think that they shouldn't be working it out in a mutually agreeable way because Sheldon was there first. Really.
At least at this point, you seem to be trying to create a fuss where there isn't one. Why are you doing that? We already have enough really stupid discussions here.

Again, it seemed weird to me that they were telling Sheldon that he won't be living there and therefore shouldn't care what happens to his room as if his moving out were already a given.

mybabyblue
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it seemed pretty decided last episode that Sheldon was going to be the one moving out. Well, to me anyway.
It seems so.
I wrote that because it seemed pretty decided last episode that Sheldon was going to be the one moving out.
That does not make a shred of sense. You raised the issue of who owns the apartment because it seems to have been decided that Sheldon is moving out, and
therefore who owns the apartment is not an issue.
Can you make any sense out of that?

So? It was and I wrote that because it seemed pretty decided last episode that Sheldon was going to be the one moving out. Well, to me anyway.

mybabyblue
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Again, it simply surprised me that they were talking about getting an entirely new place as if it was already decided that Penny and Leonard would get the apartment when Sheldon obviously cherishes his own room and would probably prefer to stay put.
There is reason to be surprised, but you wrote:
It was Sheldon's apartment first
Which is obvious. Whether or not that is of any importance is a separate issue.
Seriously, sometimes it's like the writers don't know their own shows half as well as the audience.
And that is just crap.

Again, it simply surprised me that they were talking about getting an entirely new place as if it was already decided that Penny and Leonard would get the apartment when Sheldon obviously cherishes his own room and would probably prefer to stay put.

mybabyblue
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Well considering that the current situation is that Amy and Sheldon are in Penny's apartment, talking about getting a new place and Leonard and Penny living at Sheldon's place I would assume so, yes.
Why would you assume that there is going to be a dispute about who gets Sheldon's apartment? I thought that was rather pointedly avoided by Amy and Sheldon talking about getting a new place.
Besides, Sheldon kept complaining about them wanting to use his room as storage, which they kept answering with "you won't be living here".
Again, Sheldon does not object. I was surprised, but at this point, it does not seem to be an issue.
I am a little surprised that it has not come up as an issue,
but I noticed that it hasn't,
and whatever one might expect Sheldon to do, he is talking about getting a new place with Amy
It may become an issue, but basically, you are making a fuss about an issue that has not come up yet. Don't we have enough nonsense here already?

There haven't been any long-term/permanent changes made, yet. And Amy still has to pay for her apartment even though she's not staying there.

joestl
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I wonder how they're going about paying the rent.
It is just not important. They can afford the two apartments.

I wonder how they're going about paying the rent. Is Penny still paying on the 1 room apartment while Sheldon and Leonard are splitting payment on the 2 room apartment?

Presumably the OP thinks that the fact that it was Sheldon's apartment first gives him some special rights to it. It could equally well be argued that Leonard has been there long enough that it is theirs together. I don't believe that there is any convincing, objective answer to that.
State laws vary, but especially with the "Roommate Agreement" Leonard probably has similar tenant rights vs Sheldon, as Sheldon has vs the building owner. Which means Sheldon couldn't just make Leonard move out, if Leonard didn't want to. He would have to go through some kind of eviction process. That can happen in some places even without any written agreement, just by letting someone stay in a place for long enough.
That said, the building owner doesn't have any kind of agreement with Leonard, so if for some reason Sheldon were to be evicted, Leonard would have to go too.