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<p dir="auto"><strong>The_Foxcatcher</strong> — <em>9 years ago(August 12, 2016 01:55 AM)</em></p>
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<li>What happened to Group 2 Jess ?<br />
Original Jess watches Group 2 members arriving. Original Jess gets the Shotgun and held Group 2 Jess on gunpoint but she didn't shoot. Later, Original Jess witnesses Group 2 Jess killing the Unmasked (&amp; wounded) Jess. The Group 3 members then arrives. Finally Group 3 Jess throws Original Jess into the Sea.<br />
What happened to Group 2 Jess ? We never see her. After she killed the Unmasked Jess, Group 3 arrives and its again the Original Jess who deals with the group 3 members including Group 3 Jess. Where did Group 2 Jess go ? Did I miss something ?</li>
<li>And how the hell did Unmasked (&amp; wounded) Jess come from ? We never see Original Jess going through the events which the unmasked Jess lived!<br />
At the end we see our original Jess boarding the Yacht and the movie ends. Is it that this Original Jess goes to become the Unmasked Jess ?</li>
<li>And what's the whole stupid logic of killing every group members ? How could killing the old group members save the new ones ?<br />
She could shout out loud to the newly arriving group to not board the ship or just kill the new Jess (if she wants to) and ask both new &amp; old members to work jointly in getting out of the situation.</li>
<li>The movie shows that there were several lockets, several Sallys, several handwritten paper with 'kill everyone' and several sea-gulls. So its implied that there occurred several loops before the loop we see.<br />
And if its true that Jess went through all these loops (except the first one) in order to save her son, then why kill the members? Just board the ship and quickly jump off the ship and get revived back on the shore!<br />
And If we assume that Jess' memories gets impaired on the Yacht every time she wakes up from her sleep, then she will go through the same land events in every loop i.e. killing the mean Jess and causing accident killing Tommy (because she doesn't remember the events of her previous loop and would do nothing new). So, why aren't there several dead Tommy bodies or several accidental cars or several mean Jess bodies around ?<br />
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]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/topic/247912/four-important-questions</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 07:04:30 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://filmglance.com/discuss/topic/247912.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 15:59:02 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Four Important Questions on Tue, 05 May 2026 15:59:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>carl_johnson-1</strong> — <em>9 years ago(August 19, 2016 11:02 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I like the idea of using the two circles to show to two key interactions we see with "Our Jess" and "Mean Jess" (both times Our Jess points a shotgun at Mean Jess!).<br />
However, my interpretation differs from yours. Jess 3 doesn't always go on to become Jess 2. Jess 3 goes overboard and returns on the Yacht. Half of these Jess's become Jess 1 and the other half become Jess 2.<br />
Maybe "Yacht Jess" or "Original Jess" could just be termed "Jess 0" until she either gets a shotgun pointed at her in the ballroom (and becomes Jess 2) or doesn't (and becomes Jess 1).<br />
That makes two Jess sequences:<br />
"Our Jess": Jess 0 -&gt; Jess 1 -&gt; Jess 3 -&gt; Jess 0<br />
"Mean Jess": Jess 0 -&gt; Jess 2 -&gt; Jess 4<br />
Mean Jess just dies as Jess 4. Our Jess goes on to either become Our Jess again or to become the Mean Jess (50/50).<br />
Anyhow, that's my take. I've seen others think Jess 4 also awakes on the beach and returns to the ship with all her memories of previous loops in tact. I just can't buy in.</p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/2087421</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/2087421</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 15:59:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Four Important Questions on Tue, 05 May 2026 15:59:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>The_Foxcatcher</strong> — <em>9 years ago(August 19, 2016 03:21 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks all for the answers.<br />
Actually I figured it out and made a crude presentation of the Timeline:<br />
<a href="http://oi65.tinypic.com/eju3on.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://oi65.tinypic.com/eju3on.jpg</a><br />
The movie shows two loops:</p>
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<li>Jess 1 kills Masked Jess &gt; Turns into Masked Jess -&gt; Gets killed by Jess 1</li>
<li>Jess 2 (who arrives with Group 2) Kills Unmasked Jess &gt; Turns into Unmasked Jess -&gt; Gets killed by Jess 2<br />
Both loops intersects each other. But the movie tells the story from the POV of Loop 1.<br />
And the final timeline is:-<br />
Jess 1 kills Masked Jess -&gt; Confronts Jess 2 &gt; Watches Jess 2 kill Unmasked Jess &gt; Turns into Masked Jess &gt; Gets killed by Jess 1  -&gt; Wakes up on the shore &gt; has an accident &gt; turns into Jess 2 and goes to the harbour<br />
And like you rightly said, Jess 2 becomes Jess 4. It makes sense now.<br />
Retard Pussy Sinister_prig</li>
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<p dir="auto">#1 and #2a: Jess 2 becomes Jess 4 (Unmasked Jess). We don't really see much of what Jess 2 does after she's confronted by Jess 1, though she most likely mirrors Jess 1's actions. We know she also drops the car keys just like Jess 1 does, e.g. And she ends up back at the theater to shoot Greg. But Jess 1 again intervenes by grazing her head with a shot. We see Jess 4's actions diverge significantly from Jess 3's after that, though she somehow still gets in a similar scuffle with Jess 2 at the railing.<br />
#2b: Every Jess that boards the ship is an "Original Jess". They're all Jess 3 after she's thrown overboard. (Jess 4 is killed, so does not return.)<br />
#3. She sees the Triangle return first when Jess 4 is killed. Next, when Sally 2 dies. This is when she forms the plan to get the Triangle to return by killing Group 3. She can then warn Group 4 before they board. Unfortunately, she's tossed overboard by Jess 1 before she can carry out this plan.<br />
#4. We know thing accumulate in the Aeolus loop because every 20 minutes or so, another Triangle shows up. Back on land, every morning another Jess and another seagull show up. Nothing also there will duplicate. The seagull gets killed (which does indeed pile up), but Jess re-enters the loop (see #2b), so she doesn't pile up. She does grab another locket and sweater to bring back into the loop. <img src="https://filmglance.com/discuss/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=8570fb93240" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/2087419</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/2087419</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fgadmin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 15:59:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Four Important Questions on Tue, 05 May 2026 15:59:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>warrior-poet</strong> — <em>9 years ago(August 17, 2016 12:06 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">The important bit that might help with your questions is the Event Matrix spreadsheet in the second link, but here's some quick answers. Carl answered them quite well, but here's some more thoughts:</p>
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<li>We don't specifically see it, but based on the pattern that's established she gets bludgeoned with a boat hook and thrown overboard (just like she does to the other one), then cycles around just like every other iteration of Jess. There is a gap when we don't see some details during the so-called "mean" Jess pattern (which I denote in the Event Matrx as blocks of gray, but there's enough to established an overall loop cycle pattern.<br />
2.) Look at the matrix. It'll depict where they come from. All versions of Jess come from the same original source: her home. She just loops around again and again, interacting with herself due to the asynchronous overlapping nature of the loop she's in.<br />
3.) Exactly as Carl stated, she actually intended to do exactly what you suggest (she even tells Greg that's what she's going to do). Once she falls prey to the somewhat erroneous notion that killing them all makes them return (when in fact it's her cycling around through time that makes them return, although the events are intertwined in a way that they're related, meaning her killing everyone does result in her falling overboard and therefore with them all returning), she thinks that she can make it return again and then "prevent them from boarding" as she tells Greg (before she shoots him). But she tries to run down to the lower portal and doesn't make it in time. The pattern of her killing everyone repeats in that manner each loop.<br />
4.) About 70 or more loops, actually, based on still-shots where I've counted objects (and that I've posted in that OneDrive link). As you mention, Jess forgets each loop prior to re-entering it each time. As a result, she makes the same mistakes, producing similar results each time. Each environment "resets" when she loops to the past (technically, she's just going back to a point in time before things changed). However, objects that have looped around but then get stuck there don't reset because they're a duplicate of the "original".<br />
I think of it as being orphaned in time. So there aren't Tommy's and cars piled up because when she goes to the past that event hasn't happened yet, and those objects don't loop around in time. We posit that the seagull piles up because it's also looping around. It flies into the past then dies, becoming an orphaned temporal artifact, and therefore piling up. The stuff on the Aeolus piles up because a new iteration of it is taken there and left there, therefore piling up.<br />
Hopefully that helps.</li>
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<p dir="auto">None of this answers my questions. And if you think your post have answers specific to my questions, you may quote the same over here.<br />
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<p dir="auto">Take a gander at this:<br />
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/board/11187064/board/thread/223982092" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.imdb.com/board/11187064/board/thread/223982092</a><br />
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