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open door policy for immigration
Is that your picture? I wonder what the Lakota, Chumash, and Pawnee people would say about your take on things white boy.
Watta ya lookn here for?

I think you nailed it. Political views are always just an excuse not to act for the benefit of everyone, I repeat: EVERYONE. Yes, revolutions are overrated and only bring more pain like wars, civil and international, but tell me don't global corporations bring pain? Oh yes , they always did since the times of colonization of Africa and Asia they surely have caused misery and suffering. And now those "great" nations of the rich west lift noses about immigrants from the third world? No go. You robbed them (directly or in gloves) for centuries and still do so, and I think it's time to cringe and accept them as humans. Not just sell them iphones.

Funny how so many euros give america beep over this when it was europe who did the initial taking from the natives.

"Force" those other countries to get their beep together."
Really? That sounds like a great idea! Maybe we can send some troops over, yeah?
The amazing thing about this country is that is was STOLEN from the indigenous population that was pretty much killed off and its economy was chiefly built on agriculture that was produced by the worst form of slavery that history has ever recorded, but now all of a sudden it's the moral compass for the world. Sounds legit.
Even today we get our cheap goods through slave labor, some of it being produced right next door in Mexico in deplorable factories, yet we as a country condemn the people that produce things for us. Bleeding heart? How about human? How about people that see other humans as equals and not servants and animals here to do what we want whose only purpose in life is to make sure that we can have produce and clothes at affordable prices.
"Local born natives." Give me a fricking break. Those "immigrants" once owned this land. Do you think they want to live in ghettos? The arrogance of some folks is mind blowing. Don't you think we are in some part responsible for the way things are in the countries that we exploit? We have the world's largest military and that is the ONLY reason the rest of the world puts up with our bull****. That's it. So because we can "force" other countries to do our dirty work for us at gun point, we're better? FOH.

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I take it your check is in the mail.
Of course it is. Unless they make $0 in income everyone will pay taxes.

I take it your check is in the mail.

healthcare and education should be public and free for anybody anywhere

What Michael said. Still, it's an awful movieif talking about the movie is permitted. I watched it because of Damon and Foster. Foster is dreadful, and both prove once again that any star will turn into a *hore for money. Profanity, obscenities, gushing blood, and special effects don't make for edifying entertainment. If people keep buying this tripe from Hollywood, more and more of us will develop a taste for profanity, obscenities, etc. And they'll deserve it. Disgusting display, whatever the political agenda.

Mitt kept telling us that corporations are "human beings." Great. So can I receive those subsidies, tax shelters, and file for bankruptcy without ever paying off my debts in the future when the going gets tough?
Got 13 Channels of $hit on the TV to Choose From

But all of his films have ideas that are drunken and blundering. It's part of the charm!
A heavy-handed presentation makes it easier for others that are inclined to not agree to label the message as propaganda.
People that keep sneering at the 'liberals' must love bending over for the 1%.
There are those that will blame the working class and poor for needing government programs and handouts, yet ignore or are simply blind to the billions and more given to large corporations, industries and wealthy individuals in the form of subsidies, tax shelters and tax breaks.
It is a question of conditioning, conflate the interests of the 1% (or really 0.1%) with those of the middle- and upper-middle-class, so that the middle class feels that any threat to the privilege of the "1%" is a threat against them as well.
And, use the working-class and poor (especially minorities) as the scapegoats.

Well, while I don't care for the "left-wing vs. right-wing" polemical type of discussions, I will say the message(s) in this film where rather heavy-handed.
This is true. But all of his films have ideas that are drunken and blundering. It's part of the charm!
The people on Elysium are the equivalent as the so called '1%' at the moment.
People that keep sneering at the 'liberals' must love bending over for the 1%.

Well, while I don't care for the "left-wing vs. right-wing" polemical type of discussions, I will say the message(s) in this film where rather heavy-handed.

They're not exactly educated and healthy, are they?
I'm pretty sure OP didn't mean to imply it's their own fault.

Nice , are you a proud racist ?

And the white people die so the hoards of unwashed and uneducated and ill can have freebies.

What the rich pay for on the backs of the poor.
-Nam
I am on the road less traveled

speaking as a conservative, i found it was the complete opposite, people are jealous of the rich & want what the rich have paid for, but without paying for it themselves.
trashing books is like the Special Olympics even if you burn them all you are still a retard.

Shush.. Adults speaking
'Well I've got two words for you - STFU'

Conservatives are what? I mean, if you're talking about outside the US, maybe, but inside the US? They are none of those things except to their own kind.
-Nam
I am on the road less traveled

Left-wing or Progressive. Liberal is too kind a word for these Commies. Classic Liberals were basically what the Conservatives are today: tolerant, patient, inclusive.

Liberal does not mean having "an affinity for liberty". Apart from the bad English (I suggest that you find a dictionary, and look up affinity), the film is not about liberty. It is about class warfare. It promotes the idea that the rich are evil and selfish, and that the rest of us are downtrodden and persecuted.
This films socialist rather than liberal ideas are so dominant, and so transparent, that the plot suffers appallingly.
The idea that the rich would seek refuge in space is absurd. The absence of medical equipment on earth, and the miracle machines found in every house on Elysium, is ridiculous. The film suggests that a mob of ruthless refugees raiding Elysium is somehow a good thing. The destruction of that fragile habitat is more likely, and how can that be good for anyone?
If Elysium was so concerned with security, why does it have no defences? A shoulder fired missile might down a aircraft within a few miles. The idea that it could down a craft in high earth orbit is insane.
And how could a junk-yard crew build and operate a spacecraft capable of reaching orbit?
The logical inadequacies in this film are breath-taking.

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