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<p dir="auto"><strong>HoldThisL</strong> — <em>9 years ago(October 04, 2016 01:19 AM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">So, why, all of a sudden, does he start calling her by first name in that scene? It's not that he's calling her Martha because she isn't his REAL mother or whateverotherwise, he would've called her Martha in Man of Steel also, but he didn't.<br />
It's been discussed countless times this year, but that's my main problem with that moment.<br />
Heck, even in BvS, the Ultimate Cut that is, he clearly refers to her as "Mom" when he calls her over the phone.<br />
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And in Man of Steel, I don't even need to point out the links because we all know he calls his mother "Mom" PLENTY of times in that film<br />
I'm sure you can all relate to this,  If you've called her as 'mom' or referred to her as 'mother' your WHOLE life, why change NOW all of a sudden? Hence, when Superman says "You're letting him kill Martha", it just falls flat because of how awkwardly OUT OF PLACE that one name delivery comes off. That scene could've worked just as fine if he had said 'mother' instead of Martha.</p>
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<p dir="auto">does he start calling her by first name in that scene?<br />
Because the plot's not going to contrive itself.</p>
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<p dir="auto">when he called her on the phone.. he was in the apartment he shared with Lois.. alone so it was safe to call Martha "mom".<br />
If he says "save my mom".. there's a good chance he'd end up dead quicker and so would Martha because Batman doesn't know who the hell he's talking about. for all Bruce knows, Clark could be talking about an alien mother and at that point he was definitely anti-alien.<br />
the times he called Martha "mom" in Man of Steel. A)he was home from his journey north &amp; B) the 2nd time nobody was around yet so it was safe<br />
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<p dir="auto">Are you <em>beep</em> retarded? You have no clue what this post is about.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Are you <em>beep</em> retarded? Batman obviously doesn't have a clue who his mum is</p>
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<p dir="auto">More horrible judgement by Hack Snyder. Proving once again that he doesn't care about story as long as everything looks "cool."<br />
Like you say, just change "Martha" for "mom" or "mother" and the scene would be the same. The only difference is, the whole world wouldn't be laughing at it..as much.</p>
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<p dir="auto">WOW.You don't say?</p>
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<p dir="auto">He's talking to Batman you idiot</p>
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<p dir="auto">I'm going to guess it was Terrio's idea. He probably discovered this during his research into the characters.<br />
It seems a little too nuanced for Snyder.<br />
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<p dir="auto">Perhaps? I don't know. As the Director Snyder ultimately decided what we saw but who came up with the idea is more detail than I am privy to!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Isn't that Chris Terrio's idea?<br />
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<p dir="auto">There is nothing normal about Superman so I don't see any problem.</p>
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<p dir="auto">The "Martha" coincidence doesn't happen if Superman says something normal.  That's the problem.<br />
Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'<br />
That's god damn right.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Regardless of whether you like the scene, Superman's life was saved because of coincidence, not any forethought on his part or Batman's. It was an accident that Bruce's mother had the same name. That's the way Snyder chose to end their conflict. Not via reasoning but by chance. Trying to argue what would've been a more logical thing to say is missing the point</p>
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<p dir="auto">What would saying that accomplish.<br />
There isn't a whole lot that would logically make Batman stopbut revealing to Batman that he knows his parents or knows why Batman does what he does stands a better chance of working than "Save Martha."  It also doesn't make Superman look stupid by calling his mom by her first name.  Almost anything is better than "Save Martha."<br />
Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'<br />
That's god damn right.</p>
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<p dir="auto">What would saying that accomplish. Superman already showed he knew who he was when he called him Bruce.<br />
Plus he was begging for his Mum's life, so saying "I know who you are" wouldn't fit in that situation.<br />
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<p dir="auto">Why not appeal to humanity by saying "I know who you areyouand your parents."  Why choose to be utterly ambiguous with "Martha?"<br />
Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'<br />
That's god damn right.</p>
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<p dir="auto">DeniseReynolds = Desperate DC apologist.</p>
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<p dir="auto">He was choking and dying and he assumed Batman was going to stab him to death right then (because he was).  He used his final breaths to appeal to Batman's humanity.  Told him that there's an innocent HUMAN out there who will die because of this fight.<br />
The fact that they have the same name is just a coincidence. But it's an important coincidence, as it reminds him of the time he was powerless to save his mother and father.  And when Lois revealed that Martha was his HUMAN mother's name, it makes Batman rethink his outlook on Superman (who he previously only thought of as an "alien").<br />
Had Superman's mom had a different name, I still think it would have caught Batman off guard, but it wouldn't have triggered him the way it did.  So we don't know what would have happened in that case.  There's a CHANCE that he could have slowed him down long enough for Lois to get there and explain.  She arrived only moments after that anyway.<br />
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<p dir="auto">"It's a story, it doesn't have to be perfectly logical and true to life"<br />
So why did they go for the "gritty and realistic" approach then ?<br />
Why include realistic topics like politics, domestic security policies and international warfare against terrorism ?<br />
If they went with an unrealistic, fun and even "dumb" approach, no one would complain about a few things not making sense. People would say "It's a story, it doesn't have to make perfect sense, it's just a superhero movie, relax!" and in that case it would be a relevant remark.<br />
But that doesn't work for BvS because they don't allow us to do that: they want us to take the movie seriously since it deals with such serious topics, and when people take a movie seriously they expect things to make sense.<br />
Either you make a silly movie and it's OK if it doesn't make a lot of sense, OR you make a serious movie and you better make it have some sense or else people will complain.<br />
You can't have the cake and eat it too !<br />
Lastly :<br />
"it had a message it wanted to get across"<br />
What was the message ?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Well it is more intelligent and realistic. But it's still a comic book movie, it can take liberties and artistic license for the purposes of story telling.<br />
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<p dir="auto">These are the same people who made fun of Marvel movies for having plot holes, and said that BvS would be "intelligent" and "realistic."<br />
Funny how that works.<br />
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<p dir="auto">it doesn't have to be perfectly logical and true to life<br />
Of course, you cannot link logic to this movie. So, the excuse is "this is a movie, who cares. Just watch the action, the killing, the flying, the weee, weee logic goes to the trash can". No surprise this movie failed miserably.<br />
FROM:"Save me Batman, please, save me" WB and MOS TO:"Save me Product Placement, save me" WB and BvS</p>
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<p dir="auto">That's a great explanation as well!<br />
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<p dir="auto">Artistic license, we know he said Martha so Batman would find it meaningful. It's a story, it doesn't have to be perfectly logical and true to life, it had a message it wanted to get across.<br />
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