even just one ineligible vote disenfranchises all 180 million
which is why every civilized country requires voter ID, and even many uncivilized countries
jestergooning

What does disenfranchising one eligible voter cost?

one illegal voter disenfranchises every valid voter which is about 180 million people
jestergooning

When the number of legitimate voters being disenfranchised is at least 1,000x the number of fake voters, no.

you dont think illegal votes disenfranchise legit voters?
jestergooning

I would love to hear the thinking behind that.

incorrect. even one illegal vote disenfranchises millions. it cannot be allowed.
jestergooning

Elections where 50 people vote illegally are a lot more legitimate than ones where hundreds of thousands of legal voters get purged.

I don't see how that's a good reason to accept less secure elections
jestergooning

I don't know about most of those countries but India goes to extreme lengths to make sure everyone has access to a polling station. I can't see America doing that. Republican governors have a tendency to close as many poll locations as they can get away with in blue cities.

Nope but you obviously don't know **** about owning a gun LL!
I on the other foot have more guns than Steve lake has fat rolls

im a 55 year old man that is prosoperous and happily married going on three decades now. you are a 54 year old loser with zero to wake up for in the morning

As if you have knowledge of the Constitution.
You're 62 year old sexual deviant who spends all day .aking online videos that garner 500 views.
No one asked for your opinion you imbecillic twat.
The only poster who had his account banned 4 times without ever breaking any rules each of those times.

Nope…but you can buy a gun so many cheaper ways only renobs buy guns at gun stores…****in duh…garage sale swap meets flea markets antique shops second hand stores pawn shops…the list goes on and on and if you ain't got a rural area that has a few gun shows 7 daze a week…you ain't paying attention

so you can walk into a gun store and buy a gun without an ID?
jestergooning

Holes all over ya argument son… you're talking about fed licenced…we all know that's just a formality lol! Plenty of places to legally buy a firearm without going to a licenced gun dealer
&
I win!

Yes, you generally need valid identification to buy a gun from a federally licensed firearms dealer (FFL), such as a gun store, Walmart, or other retail outlet.
Federal law requires that you present a government-issued photo ID (e.g., driver’s license, passport, military ID) when purchasing a firearm from an FFL.
You must also complete ATF Form 4473, which includes questions about your background, and undergo a National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) check.
The ID must typically show your name, date of birth, and current address. Some states may require additional documents, such as proof of residency (e.g., utility bill, lease agreement).
nope. I win.
jestergooning

Let's not pivot…the conversation is about needing an ID to purchase a firearm…do you concede your original stance?

My password is password.

MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder.

you think highly of america i can see

oh? democrats lost a civil war once over "states rights"
I think they'll lose the next one if they try again
jestergooning

why? because it circumvents state ran elections

Monkeys unbanned you, Warren. Come back!