Good post , pandora.
Chopper: I'm just a bloody normal bloke. A normal bloke who likes a bit of torture

Yes, they are more aligned with the Middle East than they are with the rest of the western world. It's kind of wild.

Civilised nations.
Chopper: I'm just a bloody normal bloke. A normal bloke who likes a bit of torture

define ' western'?
in the NORTHERN western hemisphere, yes.
in the first world sense of ' western', yes.
in the western hemisphere, no: i think some south american countries do?
but whatever the accuracy of this ^^ we are an outlier.