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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 08:03 PM)

As far as capturing noir sensibilities, I think the Coens came closest in
The Man Who Wasn't There
, maybe their most underrated film. But even they didn't get it completely right.
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That was the impetus for pre-Code crime films for sure and they're a cousin to noir and a major forerunner, often with some of the same stars and directors. Noir is a bit of a different animal though, primarily in terms of tone.
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I would say Prohibition and The Depression had more to do with film-noir. Most of the movies involve gangsters and heists and someone is always down and out and looking for a quick buck.

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yes but these kind of films were still made beginning in 1940.
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The term film-noir wasn't used until 1946, after the war. It was coined by French film critic Nino Frank. It had nothing to do with the War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Frank

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https://scheugl.org/the-film-noir/
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No it wasn't

]]>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/439349https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/439349Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:41:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to As far as capturing noir sensibilities, I think the Coens came closest in on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:41:49 GMT]]>ChristKillerman — 7 months ago(August 19, 2025 11:57 AM)

Not sure tho lol
Hrabak means greedy

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yes.
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Noir genre started because of WW2
Hrabak means greedy

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no, only for completists.
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]]>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/439345https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/439345Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:41:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to As far as capturing noir sensibilities, I think the Coens came closest in on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:41:48 GMT]]>sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 08:53 PM)

Probably off topic in a noir thread, but since I'm going to be watching
You Only Live Once
, I decided to see which other Lang films I'm missing. I think I have most of his major silent work and Hollywood period covered. But the return to Germany as an old man is a blind spot. So
Der Tiger von Eschnapur
and
Das indische Grabmal
? Worth checking out?
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I hold the final category to probably unrealistically high standards.
probably. it'd be easier to just enjoy movies if you didnt do that.
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]]>https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/439343https://filmglance.com/discuss/post/439343Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:41:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to As far as capturing noir sensibilities, I think the Coens came closest in on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:41:47 GMT]]>sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 08:28 PM)

I think you're right, but I would break it into further subsections.
Pre-noir: Lang, pre-Code crime films, emergence of hardboiled fiction on the literary scene, cultural lionization of outlaws (Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, etc.)
Classic noir: '40s and '50s, WWII and the adjustment to post-war life a major undercurrent, even if unspoken
Neo noir: Contemporary (for their time) stories with thematic similarities to classic noir. Particularly interesting during and after Vietnam.
Pastiche noir: Modern films set during the classic noir era.
I hold the final category to probably unrealistically high standards.
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imo it's obvious that neo-noir is a completely different genre than noir, the latter limited to the years 1940 - 1959.
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