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<p dir="auto"><strong>ranc1</strong> — <em>10 months ago(May 31, 2025 09:45 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Alice Miller wrote the book about how trauma - emotionally immature parents can influence our body illness.<br />
The body feels the pain - the pain is suppressed due to inability and lack of education how to process the pain - and it comes out as physical illness later on and as compulsions through the life. It is about inability to talk it out.<br />
It is like not being able to be frank with a parent due to fear of punishment or later in life - due to fear of making the parent sad or hurt. This inability to speak out certain problems and conflict - is what will turn into physical illness later on in life.<br />
Writing down the pain - through poetry for example - does not help with it fully - the body will rebel as long as the ambient is toxic and we don't keep our well being as priority.<br />
She wrote in the first part of the book many literary historic examples using famous writers.<br />
This is how I learned about Arthur Rimbaud and Verlaine- googled their lives and here I am.<br />
Google description of the poets life is unclear. I wondered how and how much could someone be wild in 19th century.<br />
Considered the police state and strict boring dull Victorian mentality of that era.<br />
The movie certainly answers that question.<br />
I love how both poets are authentic, honest, outspoken, without holding back, just raw emotions without any filter. In todays world they would be quickly labeled as borderline and narcissistic, toxic.<br />
In the same time -<br />
Rimbaud no matter how much shockingly open and crudely outspoken - he could not say the words I love you - even when Verlaine begged him to say those simple 3 words that are so easy to say…<br />
there was blockage. That part is the pain in the body - created from bad parenting early when the child is too young.<br />
That is the illness part. The trauma. The blockage to say I love you.<br />
That is where the body keeps the illness - this inability to express love and total vulnerability and love.<br />
She also wrote about other examples from other historic poets and known writers - and the pain - trauma is always the same - inability to confront the truth and speak it out.<br />
As his internal reality inevitably remained unconscious, Rimbaud’s life was marked by compulsive repetition.<br />
<img src="https://filmglance.com/discuss/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f4d6.png?v=8570fb93240" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--book" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":book:" alt="📖" /> The body never lies, Alice Miller<br />
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Rimbaud’s mother maintained total control over her children and called this<br />
control motherly love. Her acutely perceptive son saw through this lie. He<br />
realized that her constant concern for outward appearances had nothing to do<br />
with love. But he was unable to admit to this observation without reserve,<br />
because as a child he needed love, or at least the illusion of it. He could not hate<br />
his mother, particularly as she was so obviously concerned for him. So he hated<br />
himself instead, unconsciously convinced that in some obscure way he must<br />
have deserved such mendacity and coldness. Plagued by an ill-defined sense of<br />
disgust, he projected it onto the provincial town where he lived, onto the<br />
hypocrisy of the system of morality he grew up in (much like his contemporary<br />
Nietzsche in this respect), and onto himself. All his life he strove to escape these<br />
feelings, resorting in the process to alcohol, hashish, absinthe, opium, and<br />
extensive travels to faraway places. In his youth he made two attempts to run<br />
away from home but was caught and restored to his mother’s “care” on both<br />
occasions.<br />
His poetry reflects not only his self-hatred but also his quest for the love so<br />
completely denied him in the early stages of his life. Later, at school, he was<br />
fortunate enough to encounter a kindly teacher who gave him the companionship<br />
and support he so desperately needed in the decisive years of puberty. His<br />
teacher’s affection and confidence enabled Rimbaud to write and to develop his<br />
philosophical ideas. But his childhood retained its stifling grip on him. He<br />
attempted to combat his despair at the absence of love in his life by transforming<br />
it into philosophical observations on the nature of true love. But these ideas were<br />
no more than abstractions because, despite his intellectual rejection of<br />
conventional morality, his emotional allegiance to the code of conduct it<br />
prescribed was unswerving. Self-disgust was legitimate, but detesting his mother<br />
was unthinkable. He could not pay heed to the painful messages of his childhood<br />
memories without destroying the hopes that had helped him to survive as a child.<br />
Time and again, Rimbaud tells us that he had no one to rely on except himself.<br />
This was surely the fruit of his experience with a mother who had nothing to<br />
offer him but her own derangement and hypocrisy, rather than true love. His<br />
entire life was a magnificent but vain attempt to save himself from destruction at<br />
the hands of his mother, with all the means at his disposal.<br />
Young people who have gone through much the same kind of childhood as<br />
Rimbaud are often fascinated by his poetry because they can vaguely sense the<br />
presence of a kindred spirit in it.<br />
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<p dir="auto">Rimbaud is an especially harrowing example of this. Drugs were unable to<br />
act as a substitute for the emotional nourishment he really needed, and his body<br />
was not to be deceived about its true feelings. If he had met someone who could<br />
have helped him fully understand the destructive influence of his mother, he<br />
would no longer have needed to punish himself for it, and his life might have<br />
taken a different course. As it was, all his attempts to escape were doomed to<br />
failure, and he was constantly forced to return to his mother.<br />
Like Rimbaud’s, Paul Verlaine’s life also came to a premature end, as we<br />
have learned. He died in misery at the age of fifty-one, due, on the face of it, to<br />
drug addiction and alcoholism that completely consumed his financial resources.<br />
But, as with so many others, the real cause was a lack of awareness and the selfsubjection to a generally accepted commandment that forced him to endure<br />
without resistance his mother’s control and manipulation (frequently with the<br />
help of money). Although in his younger years Verlaine had fervently hoped that<br />
he could free himself of his mother’s control with the aid of self-manipulation<br />
and substance abuse, by the end he lived off women who gave him money, many<br />
of them prostitutes.<br />
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<p dir="auto">More:<br />
Rimbaud’s friendship with Paul Verlaine is well known in literary history.<br />
His longing for love and genuine communication initially appeared to find<br />
gratification in this friendship. But the mistrust rooted in his childhood gradually<br />
poisoned their intimacy, and this, coupled with Verlaine’s own difficult past,<br />
prevented the love between them from achieving any permanence. Ultimately,<br />
their recourse to drugs made it impossible for them to live the life of total<br />
honesty that they were in search of. Their relationship was crippled by the<br />
psychological injuries they inflicted on each other. In the last resort, Verlaine<br />
acted in just as destructive a way as Rimbaud’s mother, and the final crisis came<br />
when Rimbaud was shot by the drunken Verlaine, who was sentenced to two<br />
years in prison for his crime.<br />
To salvage the genuine love he was deprived of in childhood, Rimbaud<br />
turned to the idea of love embodied in Christian charity and in understanding<br />
and compassion for others. He set out to give others what he himself had never<br />
received. He tried to understand his friend and to help Verlaine understand<br />
himself, but the repressed emotions from his childhood repeatedly interfered<br />
with this attempt. He sought redemption in Christian charity, but his implacably<br />
perspicacious intelligence would allow him no self-deception. Thus he spent his<br />
whole life searching for his own truth, but it remained hidden to him because he<br />
had learned at a very early age to hate himself for what his mother had done to<br />
him. He experienced himself as a monster, his homosexuality as a vice (this was<br />
easy to do given Victorian attitudes toward homosexuality), his despair as a sin.<br />
But not once did he allow himself to direct his endless, justified rage at the true<br />
culprit, the woman who had kept him locked up in her prison for as long as she<br />
could. All his life he attempted to free himself of that prison, with the help of<br />
drugs, travel, illusions, and above all poetry. But in all these desperate efforts to<br />
open the doors that would have led to liberation, one of them remained<br />
obstinately shut, the most important one: the door to the emotional reality of his<br />
childhood, to the feelings of the little child who was forced to grow up with a<br />
severely disturbed, malevolent woman, with no father to protect him from her.<br />
Rimbaud’s biography is a telling instance of how the body cannot but seek<br />
desperately for the early nourishment it has been denied. Rimbaud was driven to<br />
assuage a deficiency, a hunger that could never be stilled. His drug addiction, his<br />
compulsive travels, and his friendship with Verlaine can be interpreted not<br />
merely as attempts to flee from his mother, but also as a quest for the<br />
nourishment she had withheld from him. As his internal reality inevitably<br />
remained unconscious, Rimbaud’s life was marked by compulsive repetition.<br />
After every abortive escape attempt, he returned to his mother, doing so both<br />
after the separation from Verlaine and at the end of his life<br />
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