I know we disagree sometimes but I think you're definitely one of my favs to talk to on here.
I think that's part of growing a friendship.
I
should
be visiting Lyon next year. All I have to pay for is my ticket. I'm going with my brotha from another. He has family there and once we get there we don't have to pay for loggings. Just food, or whatever.
He wants to go in DEC2025, something about snow skiing. That's sounds great but I want to go over there sooner.
My coworker is also a travel agent. I want to go Greece beforehand. Maybe next spring or Summer.
Greece is so unbelievably cheap right now.
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He should come and visit Europe, see what life is really like in other countries

He doesn't like the UK period. He's constantly ridiculing you guys.
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This is not true. I lived in a predominantly Muslim and Gitan neighbourhood for five years and it was the only time I have ever lived somewhere with a thriving community feel where everyone got along. People would sit out in the streets to eat, share what they had, play music together, dance. My first Christmas living there, the Muslim guy who ran the barbershop underneath my apartment gave me a huge plate of couscous. I was accepted instantly and made to feel like part of the community.
My building had three apartments, me on the first floor and above two further apartments. A Muslim guy lived in one and he was the most awesome neighbour you could ever want. He was a dance teacher and my landlady told me he taught her the salsa years go. The other flat had the biggest bratty **** who made living there miserable. She was an entitled French woman who both me and the guy upstairs couldn't stand. I hope for his sake she has since moved out.

I know. Any non Muslim that lives amongst Muslims dislikes them. They're incompatible with every other community.
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He seems to think that no one speaks out against Islam but I guarantee that there is a lot of speaking out against Islam.

In other words, there's a lot of hate for Muslims from the people who actually know and live with them.
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Wow, no. There is a lot of hate for Muslims in the UK and across Europe!

What are your views on Mohammed? It seems that UK'ers are absolutely terrified to talk sht about about Islam.
Why are you Uk'ers so petrified to denounce Islamic child grooming in the UK?
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/I would say this but more in day to day life. I don't think many on this board have much life experience of being around Muslims and so are easily swayed by what is in the media./
Hey there Panda,
Now this may come of a shock to you but we have a huge Muslim population in North Texas, most are based the Richardson (Dallas suburb) area.
I had 3 Muslim neighbors that I knew for many years. They were literally the best people ever. Two of which who were always inviting me out for food or even bringing me home cooked meals. The sweetest people.
My upstairs neighbor was an Ethopian Muslim who could not drink responsibly, loving his Black Label Johnny Walker a little too much. One time he was so wasted he asked me to go and bless his condo because he felt "evil spirits".
So I put on an act and pretended to know some pseudo-Christian-White Magic chants and appeared to be emotionally into it. He was very relieved afterwards and thanked me for my faux exorcism. Funny little guy.
"So why do you hate Muslims, Jason?"
I don't and just like you I can't stand being generalized.
The Muslims here for the most part are amazing, intelligent, hard working, and some of the best people I've been around.
Sure, they do drink even when they shouldn't, and they don't always go to Mosque as they're supposed to. They're much more westernized and even docile.
But they are not the same as
Islamists
which seem to flood Europe and have caused the trouble they've brought in over there.
Of course I don't believe all of them are like this though.
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"Many Americans are hard core Bible thumping religious zealots"
Which is entirely false.
It depends on how one defines 'many' and 'Bible thumping religious zealots'. When I think of the latter for instance I imagine I am talking about the extremes of religious fundamentalism. Surveys have shown that the share of fundamentalists is at or near 50 percent in "West South Central" (Texas to Arkansas) and "South Atlantic" (Florida to Maryland), while at 25 percent or below elsewhere in the country, with the low of nine percent in New England. In addition there is the worrying trend of extremism growing within American Christendom.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/02/04/qanon-christian-extremism-nationalism-violence-466034
While I would not hasten to tar all religious fundamentalists with the same brush there is undeniably a sizeable minority.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

/Absolutely. Many Americans in particular, sorry to say, are relatively provincial in their notions of the rest of the world and influenced by theocratic forces at home in their views. The result can be sweeping generalisations and condemnations about one of the major religions which at best seem unsophisticated and unlearned and at worst just racist./
Before even restarting a discussion on this I'm seeing a similarity in both of our corners. You and I might be on opposite sides of this small nuance however we are both influenced by media.
sweeping generalisations
are as follows…
"Many Americans are hard core Bible thumping religious zealots"
Which is entirely false. Many of those outside the US have only been programmed by the media to believe this.
It's also how some outsiders are scared to move to the US thinking they'll get shot and that the US is the first place in the world for gun homicide which is entirely untrue.
If fact, we are far from number one.
These surveys show that we are 89th and 20th respectively and way behind of all these fine nations so we must be doing something right.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-rates-by-country.html#:~:text=Countries With The Highest Murder Rates 1 1.,... 5 5. Lesotho (41.2 per 100%2C000)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands#:~:text=Half of all gun-related deaths in 2016 occurred,less than 10 percent of the world’s population
.
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Oh yes I wouldn't deny that we are all open to influence. But the majority of UK papers are right wing so that 'liberal filter' is not as evident as one might think.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

Aren't Europeans influenced as well? Their view of the USA is carefully skewed by their media.
They are viewing America through a careful controlled liberal filter.
And
Hello Mr. Jared Kushner. Right on time baby.
Maybe I'm the only one that sees you.
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Yes I did. The sad thing is that you needed to give this example of harmonious living, evidenced around the world, at all.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

Exactly. Not sure you read my reply below to someone claiming that non-Muslims don't like living around Muslims. People are very quick to spout this narrative that simply isn't true.

Absolutely. Many Americans in particular, sorry to say, are relatively provincial in their notions of the rest of the world and influenced by theocratic forces at home in their views. The result can be sweeping generalisations and condemnations about one of the major religions which at best seem unsophisticated and unlearned and at worst just racist.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

the problem on this board is simply the lack of Muslims to debate with
I would say this but more in day to day life. I don't think many on this board have much life experience of being around Muslims and so are easily swayed by what is in the media.

bullshit appeal to authority
An argument from authority is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) is used as evidence to support an argument and can be a logical fallacy. However, in particular circumstances, it is sound to use as a practical although fallible way of obtaining information that can be considered generally likely to be correct
if the authority is a real and pertinent intellectual authority
.
To be honest if one transposed your hatred towards Muslims and Islam to a hatred of Jews and Judaism, then the Nazism you seem to condemn on the one hand would be quite evident on the other.
Fucking retard
Did I mention that an
ad hominem
is not an argument?
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

In the summer of 2016 for instance, aboard the plane taking him back to Rome after a trip to Poland, His Holiness, Pope Francis
Neither is this bullshit appeal to authority!
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Is it bigotry to oppose nazism due to the violence it causes?
The Nazi ideology and regime are completely different from Islam. This is not to say of course that there are reprehensible theocracies around based on strict observance of it's tenets.
In the summer of 2016 for instance, aboard the plane taking him back to Rome after a trip to Poland, His Holiness, Pope Francis said it was wrong to identify Islam with violence, adding that social injustice and idolatry of money were among the prime causes of terrorism. ‘I think it is not right to identify Islam with violence,’ he told reporters. ‘This is not right and this is not true… I think that in nearly all religions there is always a small fundamentalist group,’ he said; and referring to Catholicism, he added: ‘We have them.’
Fucking retard
An
ad hominem
is not an argument. But I forgive you.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

Bigotry against an ideology? huh???? Are you confused? Is it bigotry to oppose nazism due to the violence it causes?
Did you know most nazi supporters were nonviolent???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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What's wrong with being Islamophobic?
The fact you need to ask that is worrying. Hatred and bigotry are always to be condemned, sorry about that. The proportion of Muslims who are terrorists is a very small minority.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

What's wrong with being Islamophobic? No one wants to get killed by a bomb or acid attack for talking bad about Islam. Everyone is afraid of those batshit muslims
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