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<p dir="auto"><strong>Pedosh</strong> — <em>9 years ago(September 16, 2016 03:18 PM)</em></p>
<p dir="auto">When Catwoman watches Bane beat up Batman, Bane reveals his Batman's identity as Bruce Wayne - Catwoman seems to react to this. However, when Bruce Wayne meets her again later she mentions his 'powerful friend' seemingly oblivious of what was revealed to her earlier in the film - it does not seem sarcastic. Have I got this completely wrong?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Selina starts the scene being tough and dismissive of Bruce.<br />
Then she turns sarcastic. "Maybe I like it this way."<br />
It is when Bruce says that the bomb is going off the next day that she turns serious, and takes him seriously. That is when she then coopts Bruce's lingo regarding Batman being his friend and what-not. In fact, she even says it somewhat pleadingly, as if she hopes Bruce has Batman ready to go. There's no reason to be cold and aloof anymore. Things just got real.</p>
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<p dir="auto">It's a joke. Dry humor. Asking a billionaire about his "powerful friend." You'd think oh, wouldn't a billionaire be powerful too? Well, no because he's kind of broke.<br />
God created war so that Americans would learn geography.<br />
Mark Twain</p>
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<p dir="auto">She probably felt weird addressing a grown man dressed as a batman. Batman. And why would she say tell batman? She was probably teasing slash flirting with him.<br />
We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Pedosh, Chris and I have had more than our fair share of disagreements but he is 100% right in this case.<br />
"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine</p>
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<p dir="auto">This is my favourite superhero film. I'm not criticising the dialogue just making my own observation upon the way in which it has been delivered. I might be in the minority but I'm fine with that.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Re: Confused<br />
by<br />
Pedosh<br />
6 hours ago (Sun Sep 18 2016 02:36:45)<br />
IMDb member since June 2005<br />
If you can't see that her delivery is dubious/confusing then fine. I watched this film after 3 years and I'm telling you, from my perspective, the 'coy' delivery isn't obvious.<br />
It's perfectly obvious and in the four years since the movie was released you are the only person who has ever mentioned the line and this board has been littered with people looking for any tiny thing to nitpick.<br />
And yet even the pickers of nits never picked that nit because there is no nit to pick.<br />
Play someone that one line (whose not seen the film or for a good while) and ask them if she implies she knows Wayne is Batman. They'll struggle to give you a definite yes or no answer (I bet they lean more to no).<br />
Seriously?<br />
That line is part of a greater whole. You can't take the line out of context and expect it to be understood.  If you are going to do that you can take pretty much any line of any movie and create confusion.<br />
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Chris</p>
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<p dir="auto">I understood it the first time I saw it as did everyone else who was with me.<br />
"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine</p>
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<p dir="auto">If you can't see that her delivery is dubious/confusing then fine. I watched this film after 3 years and I'm telling you, from my perspective, the 'coy' delivery isn't obvious.<br />
Play someone that one line (whose not seen the film or for a good while) and ask them if she implies she knows Wayne is Batman. They'll struggle to give you a definite yes or no answer (I bet they lean more to no).</p>
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<p dir="auto">There was nothing confusing about the scene or the delivery.  Selina wasn't being sarcastic she was being coy which is perfectly in character.<br />
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Chris</p>
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<p dir="auto">Thanks for posting the link to the scene.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Fair enough.</p>
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<p dir="auto">The title of your thread is "Confused".  You're confused that her delivery of the line was odd?<br />
Again, I think she is just continuing the reference that Bruce began.  At this point it's almost like an inside joke, only she's not joking - she's paying respect to the entire idea of Batman.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I know she knew who he was but the delivery of her line is so unknowing or tongue in cheek (like Catwoman has been throughout the film) that I found it confusing. It's not an issue just an odd delivery.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I have literally no idea what your issue could be on this.<br />
Here's that scene:<br />
Very early on in thier conversation, when Bruce says he needs her help, Selina says "After what I did to you?"  Batman is who she betrayed, so obviously -<br />
obviously</p>
<ul>
<li>she is acknowledging Bruce is Batman.  In no way is she "oblivious of what was revealed to her earlier in the film" as you stated in your OP.<br />
Her "powerful friend" question is in full recognition of Bruce being Batman.  It's not sarcastic, it's just going along with Bruce's approach to the dual identity thing.  She is respecting the fact that Batman is more than laundry, and using Bruce's own phrase to do so.</li>
</ul>
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<p dir="auto">When Bruce Wayne first meets Selena Kyle after arriving in Gotham (having escaped the pit).</p>
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<p dir="auto">He gives it to her and asks her to hel<br />
Does he? My take on it was that he only really<br />
asks<br />
her to help just before she apparently heads off into the sunset. she<br />
bargains him up<br />
to helping her escape from the city as well as helping him to rescue Fox<br />
before<br />
she takes the clean slate device from him.<br />
He knows there is more to her than her past actions.<br />
His judgement is demonstrably at its poorest where women are concerned, as his complete lack of suspicion about 'Miranda' amply proves. One could even argue that it's essential for Nolan's knight's faith in women to be fatally misplaced so that Selina's 'redemption' has surprise value, not to mention the 'shock' of seeing Bruce Wayne finally having that (blind) faith rewarded!<br />
An opinion is not offensive just because you do not agree with it.</p>
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<p dir="auto">it's when Bruce meets up with her after she saves the young apple thief, just before he offers to pay her for her help again. Wasn't he supposed to have gained wisdom while he was trapped in the 'underworld'?<br />
Thanks to both you and the Hippster for clarifying, although in defense of my own dignity I would note that I had already posted a link to the scene a week ago, just two posts further down the thread.<br />
I dispute your characterization of the handing over the Clean Slate as offering to pay Selina.  He gives it to her and asks her to help.  The conditional, transactional approach was what he tried the first time when he was betrayed.  Bruce/BatChrist here gives her the Clean Slate redemption as a grace; it is not earned through works.  He knows there is more to her than her past actions.<br />
Or it could just be a foolish prepayment to a proven untrustworthy chica because he's a sucker for 'the ladies'.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Selina would never be able to use the Clean Slate unless she helped him save the city, if she doesn't help him then she is going to die. Bruce knows she isn't a true believer in Bane's cause, she just wants to be able to start fresh. That is why he knew she'd help him.<br />
"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine</p>
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<p dir="auto">it's when Bruce meets up with her after she saves the young apple thief, just before he offers to<br />
pay her<br />
for her help<br />
again<br />
. Wasn't he supposed to have<br />
gained wisdom<br />
while he was trapped in the 'underworld'?<br />
An opinion is not offensive just because you do not agree with it.</p>
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<p dir="auto">This is the scene he is  referring to:<br />
Selina: Got your powerful friend on the case?<br />
Bruce: I'm on it, but I need you to take me to Lucius Fox<br />
Selina: Why do you need Fox?<br />
Bruce: To save this city<br />
Selina: Who says it needs saving? Maybe I like it this way<br />
Bruce: But tomorrow that bomb's going off<br />
It's not really that hard to understand that Selina knew Bruce was Batman.<br />
"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine</p>
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<p dir="auto">Please cite the scene in some identifiable way - time cue, where they are, anything.</p>
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<p dir="auto">She mentions it later on too.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Catwoman's statement to Batman about Bruce Wayne's powerful friend happens before the sewer fight.</p>
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<p dir="auto">"I wasn't paying attention!"<br />
So it's not that the movies are senseless</p>
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