And beep, no-one gives a beep about your thoughts.

Instead of the continuing discussions which are very much at odds, why don't we focus on the newly-released publicity material ( the Mangold photo, the building banner being installed, and the new poster which evokes very strong emotions, especially with those fans who loved the XMen and Wolverine from Day One?). Maybe our guests from the MCU world could also see the promise of what have been shared with us via the first trailer and the various enigmatic and strong imagery?
Soon to follow ( Mangold said within a few weeks into 2017), the second trailer will be released. There is also some news that the embargo for the 40-minute screening previews for select media will lapse possibly by mid-January. So many things to anticipate about this movie!
Also, it's only about 2 months or so before the movie opens. We can finally judge how the cinematic vision of Mangold and the artistic interpretation by Jackman have been best executed with the freedom that a Restricted rating may allow, artistically-speaking.
The newest poster does grab a fan by the throat. JoBlo.com even calls it "cathartic".
Cheers!

Predator is a classic and one of the best adult action and sci-fi films around and good filmmaking.
Have you ever seen Ninja Scroll? go rent it online and it's an awesome work of animation that isn't for kids as it combines fantasy-action and very like Japanese game of thrones of a man vs magical demons.
"Unicorn, mermaid, vampire,sorceress! No name you'd give her would surprise me i love whom i love"

I liked Predator, even though it admittedly has a somewhat thin plot.
Robocop was actually meant to be a satire, oddly enough.
It's been a while since I saw Die Hard

What about Predator, Robocop, Die Hard, Hard Boiled and Ninja Scroll? actioners for adults
"Unicorn, mermaid, vampire,sorceress! No name you'd give her would surprise me i love whom i love"

No, I just don't understand why there's this obsession with an R Rating.
Being rated R doesn't automatically make something "good" or "adult".

Samhnd just wants everything to be pg13
You must die in order to live.

That's what DCEU fans think.
"Never tell me the odds!"- Han Solo

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Shut your trap, you used condom of a person. It is impossible to reason with you and the only thing you'll do is to come up with retarded excuses to defend your God Feige.
Some BODY once told me.

Yes, the MCU fanboys want everything to be the same.
Unashamed? Yeah we do.
Plot? Character development? What's that?
Stuff MCU has plenty of.
Why bother making a well written villain that can give depth to the plot when you can
Create a well-written protagonist who doesn't need the villain the steal the movie.

Yes, the MCU fanboys want everything to be the same.
Copies of copies of copies. All generic, dull, not doing anything different. Simple movies for simple minded people.
Plot? Character development? What's that? Why bother making a well written villain that can give depth to the plot when you can just have a generic bad guy that will go full retard in order to be stopped by "Le ebin dance off meme XDDD"
Some BODY once told me.

Nah, just the ashamed ones which go for that sell-out "grounded" approach.

OP is right. This movie comes off as a depressing, over the top attempt at being something it's not. At the end of the day, it's still a comic book film about a guy with adamantium claws. This is not Macbeth. This movie tries to take itself too serious.
the kiddie mcu fans thinks comic book movies are kiddie trash

Red_Hood02! cops tell jokes, firemen tell jokes, your parents tell jokes, teachers tell jokes, religious leaders tell jokes and even the soldiers from WWI to Vietnam to all the way to current tell jokes.
"Unicorn, mermaid, vampire,sorceress! No name you'd give her would surprise me i love whom i love"

If you knew anything about Logan, you'd know he makes jokes. Always has.

Go and watch an MCU film instead. You didnt know anything about Wolverine. Hes not an funny guy, who makes stupid jokes.

Actually, he makes cracks lots of times. And out of all the X-Men he's the one who spends most of his time with kids.

Go and watch an MCU film instead. You didnt know anything about Wolverine. Hes not an funny guy, who makes stupid jokes.

OP is right. This movie comes off as a depressing, over the top attempt at being something it's not. At the end of the day, it's still a comic book film about a guy with adamantium claws. This is not Macbeth. This movie tries to take itself too serious.

You think Marvel's adaptation of Old Man Logan would be closer to the source? You want a light-hearted romp?
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But somehow it is okay for Marvel to beep up and bastardize Civil War, Age of Ultron, Extremis, Planet Hulk/Ragnarok, Demon in a Bottle, etc.
Some BODY once told me.

If the rights go backnto marvel you can say goodbye to any of these movies being r rated ever again
You must die in order to live. This