Somebody likes this movie?
WOW.

"Evil beware . . . we have waffles."

• Raven, "Teen Titans"

I'm more convinced than ever before that people who tout a movie's "soul" have literally nothing in mind when they say it. You might as well say it has "zazz," "that certain je ne sais quoi" or "flurmblebrrrgen."
That's about the nicest thing I can say about Supes IV . . "The Quest for Peace . . that movie was chock full o' flurmblebrrrgen!"

I have meddled with the primal forces of nature and I will atone.

No it doesn't. Watch.

Superman IV had plenty of Soul despite its limitations and flaws, something that Man of Steel lacked

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Man of Steel sucks, Quest for Peace is worse,
but only because of production values.
Quest for Peace still at least is true to the Superman character. Man of Steel was not.
Watch this review and say that again.
The writing was terrible.

At least this movie represented Superman, not an unrelated character with the same name.
And at least it featured Clark Kent.
Man of Steel sucks, Quest for Peace is worse, but only because of production values. Quest for Peace still at least is true to the Superman character. Man of Steel was not.
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Please, you can't even come up with reasons to back up what you are saying and cleary just want attention. IV had terrible production value and action scenes even for it's time while Man of Steel was the complete opposite. IV's plot and writing was also much worse such as that massive plot hole with Superman's hair. Then there is the heavy headed "nukes are bad" message.

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I think you mean its easy for you to be in denial.
Counter the points in the video then.

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Now say that again.

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Man of Steel is Citizen friggin' Kane compared to Superman IV: The Quest For Peace, and Man of Steel isn't even that great a film to begin with.
In all fairness, I'm pretty solidly mixed in my thoughts on Man of Steel. That said, though, I definitely can name things I liked about it compared to this. Again, this is all my opinion.

1. Man of Steel was at least extremely well crafted, and its production values were mostly stellar. I can't really say whether or not the budget was deliberately cut, but even still, Superman IV is HORRENDOUSLY put together. You might as well have told me that The Asylum or Uwe Boll were involved in it, and I wouldn't have questioned it.
2. I'm aware that people give a lot of flak to Man of Steel for not having any humor, but what they had in Superman IV wasn't any better. While it does somewhat make sense to me that some prefer Superman IV for unintentional hilarity, the comedic scenes in that one fall completely flat. I'm not sure what's worse: trying to be serious or trying and failing to be funny.
3. While I don't think everything paid off in the end, I at least give Man of Steel credit for TRYING to do something different with Superman. Despite what everyone else says, I don't want the Christopher Reeve film again, and I'm extremely open to a darker take on the character. That's more than I can say for Superman IV, which played it completely safe and took no chances whatsoever.
   But that's just the way I feel.

Superman IV sucks more than any Superman film I've ever watched and it's utter garbage but you're a fvcking idiot if you think people are automatically Marvel fanboys because they don't like Man of Sh*t Go back to coddling Zack Snyder's balls in your mouth.
All Supes films have always been lame and not as widely accepted by audiences at any given time. It doesn't matter how dark the colors they make the suit or how hard they make him frown. Warner just doesn't know how to handle the character nor do they really accept him for not being similar to Batman.
It's sad that a senior citizen with lame ass values like Captain America resonates with more audiences today than Superman ever could. Why? Because he doesn't give a fvck about what people say about his outdated ass values and doesn't handle things stupidly and cry bitch tears like Superman did in Man of Steel.

These ass holes are all Marvel fanboys in disguise.

I can excuse Superman in IV for being able to put things back together with his vision , than to excuse Clark Kent in MOS letting people die all the way through the movie.
If you want to get technical and nitpick, I can list a whole lot of issues.
From how the hell the Kents managed to lug that spaceship into the barn. how Clark managed to mess up the trucks at the truckstop without anyone hearing or seeing anything. how did Clark get a job so easily at a remote location.how come Clark doesnt hear Lois is following him if they point out he has this super sensitive hearing. how does Jor-El's avatar know that Clark is an adult? can he literally see Clark in front of him? Pa Kent tells Clark to take everyone to the overpass during the tornado. when tornadic winds are accelerated in the confined space of an overpass. Superman uses his powers when they are completely unnecessary, yet when he should use them to save peoplehe doesnt! Why does Lois fall when everyone else is getting sucked into the blackhole? How does Lois end up in one location so quickly when the last they cut to her , she was at the Daily Planet??
There are A LOT of things wrong with Man of Steel.
To Add - For all that MOS "tried to be original" - as in the words of a poster following, so much so that they butchered the origin story and Clark's childhood and have Lois onto Supe's real identity from the beginning etc, etc.
Isn't it ironic that "originality fell by the wayside??

1. Clark rescuing the school bus - Clearly taken from Superman (Oh yeah lets make the bus go over the bridge completely this time wait wait better still - lets make it in his "younger days")
2. Or the Truck Stop scene - Clearly inspired from Superman 2 albeit with a slight variation
3. Or how about the fight with Zod, Faora etc in the Small town - almost a carbon copy of the same fight in Superman 2 with a few extra scenes from various PREVIOUS Supes movies - Of course with updated military hardware and cgi etc - but the essence is there.
   Boy was that original

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Superman IV is loaded with stupid, stupid moments. In fact I can pick apart almost every scene with no effort.
Yes, but they are entertaining stupid moments. Still, it is a comicbook movie, you can't knock the film down for being more in the direction of fantasy in an attempt to shift the series into more of that comicbook realm. They had the intent on making followups to IV that had more super powered villains like Brainiac ,Bizarro, etc. Those kinds of characters certainly wouldn't fit in Superman:The Movie ,but they would fit in with the transition the series made from III and IV.
I love Man of Steel, it's my favorite Superman movie, I think the new take on the hero was welcome.
I don't doubt it was welcomed but to a new younger generation. Whereas the older crowd that grew up on the comics, cartoons, tv shows, films,etc are not in favor of what they did to the characters and the story. To that crowd it is not a proper Superman adaption.
So yeah, I agree with you. Superman IV did a lot more damage to the hero than Man of Steel did.
it isn't a matter of which film had the better box office reception. there are a lot of films that did poorly in the theater , yet managed to hold a fanbase on home video and over the years due to being a pretty good movie that entertains.
People are entitled to dislike Man of Steel if they want, and maybe that movie did get some things about Superman wrong.
the movie got a lot of things wrong. i still cant get over how they chose to depict the character of Jonathan Kent.
But Superman IV got a lot more wrong. The greatest example is how Superman has all these powers that he doesn't have in any other form of media regarding Superman. I could list them all, but that would take too long.
I can excuse Superman in IV for being able to put things back together with his vision , than to excuse Clark Kent in MOS letting people die all the way through the movie.
If you want to get technical and nitpick, I can list a whole lot of issues.
From how the hell the Kents managed to lug that spaceship into the barn. how Clark managed to mess up the trucks at the truckstop without anyone hearing or seeing anything. how did Clark get a job so easily at a remote location.how come Clark doesnt hear Lois is following him if they point out he has this super sensitive hearing. how does Jor-El's avatar know that Clark is an adult? can he literally see Clark in front of him? Pa Kent tells Clark to take everyone to the overpass during the tornado. when tornadic winds are accelerated in the confined space of an overpass. Superman uses his powers when they are completely unnecessary, yet when he should use them to save peoplehe doesnt! Why does Lois fall when everyone else is getting sucked into the blackhole? How does Lois end up in one location so quickly when the last they cut to her , she was at the Daily Planet??
There are A LOT of things wrong with Man of Steel.

I'm not here to say these people are wrong for liking Superman IV but disliking Man of Steel, that's their opinion.
But here is my take.
Superman IV is loaded with stupid, stupid moments. In fact I can pick apart almost every scene with no effort.
I love Man of Steel, it's my favorite Superman movie, I think the new take on the hero was welcome.
So yeah, I agree with you. Superman IV did a lot more damage to the hero than Man of Steel did.
People are entitled to dislike Man of Steel if they want, and maybe that movie did get some things about Superman wrong.
But Superman IV got a lot more wrong. The greatest example is how Superman has all these powers that he doesn't have in any other form of media regarding Superman. I could list them all, but that would take too long.

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