I have known people like you all my life. All you want is attention by spewing mean and ugly things. I AM IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT JOHN. MERYL WAS A PART OF JOHN'S LIFE. THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD IS MERYL ON JOHN'S SIGHT. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO GOES ON AND ON ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE YOU THINK SHE IS. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T GET WITH IT. YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR A, THAT YOU CAN NOT OR WILL NOT LET ANYONE ELSE TALK ABOUT JOHN AND MERYL WITH ANY TYPE OF COMPASSION. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KEEPS ON INTERFERING WHEN ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT MERYL. WE ARE NOT HERE TO WORSHIP MERYL WE ARE HERE TO HONOR JOHN. LET IT GO ALREADY!!!! FIND ANOTHER HOBBY!!! (I am just being honest.)

We don't have to like her or anyone, and we're not trying to win any awards, so what's that question about? Awards are BOUGHT by companies like Disney, ABC, Sony, etc., they mean little. They are given to the people that the MASSES are buying, they are usually/basically mediocre at best. And of course, IN 5b4MY OPINION, which I am entitled to HAVE, Streep is MEDIOCRE at best. So she belongs in the crap movies being made. Fine.
BUT John Cazale was not. So go to the Streep board and let us talk about John HERE while you adore at the feet of Streep. Go ahead on.
We're not MEAN or hateful, just honest. Get with it.

I just got done watching THE GODFATHER trilogy on AMC, and decided I wanted to know more about Fredo. Had not realized he had died. What a sad story, but what an impact he had made on the movies he did make. I also didn't realize he was engaged to Meryl, and wanted to read more about what others thought of that. What mean and hateful people some of you are!!!! John loved this woman, and this woman was in love and devoted to him. Why dishonor that with all your hate for her?? John Cazale was on his way to become a great actor. His life was cut way to short, but at least he loved and was loved. Why don't we focus on that, instead of the hate. Get over yourself already. PSHow many times have you been nominated for an Academy Award, since you think you know so much about acting?

I am supremely annoyed these days by the commercials for that movie where she's saying "we ARE mysterious creatures, aren't we?" you can always tell a movie isn't going to be any good by the way they keep shoving it in our faces, AS IF that would make us see it. I'm already saying OMG everytime that commercial begins. Anyway, anyone can THINK she's a good actress, that doesn't mean she IS. I don't care who likes her or doesn't, I just know I don't. I've been watching movies all my life and have never understood the cult of streep. I've been watching Bette Davis, Ida Lupino, Lillian Gish, Joan Crawford - I guess that's why I THINK she's NOT a good actor.

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Bring her on. AND I don't think we've been particularly venomous, just truthful. Most people can't HANDLE THE TRUTH. You can't. It's hard for you to understand because you're such a nice person..that you had to come here and comment TO US. Whatever. This is the Cazale board, go to the Streep board.

WOW! With all of the venom you are spewing on this board about Meryl Streep,
I wander what you would have the gall to say to her face to face.
If you don't think she is a good actress, that's ok because you are entitled
to your opinion. But when you criticize her in such a mean spirited way;
I find that hard to understand.
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She was pretty good in that film with Jack and Fred Gynne, I cant remember the name of it. Late 80's , They were a homeless couple during the depression. Not a great film by any stretch but her performance equaled Jack's.

I've always failed to see what others see in lots of things. Like Madonna. Like designers who put their name on a white shirt and say they designed the white shirt. Like Pearl Jam. Like Oprah. Etc. And this is the Cazale board, not the Streep fan board. I saw Jessica in Streetcar with Alec Baldwin and Amy Madigan, she was superb. As usual. But this isn't the Jessica fan board either. Awards don't mean much, not these days with the studios and labels and tv stations owning them AND the people they give the awards TO. And I agree when you say Streep's career's been ENDLESSLY LONG, god, yes, I agree, ENDLESSLY. Even without plastic surgery, some people still look rather ugly on screen these days, so that's nothing. I still think most people take whatever's placed in front of them, and say that's their favorite. They look LITTLE, see nothing. It's like, no one else matters, except for whoever the studio shoves down their throat, or the author Oprah tells them to read, or the music played on the radio OVER & OVER.
No need to apologize, I like to argue like this, sides taken, etc.

LOL!, now you're comparing Jessica to Meryl? Meryl's got this amazing career. it's like endlessly long with full of accolades and accomplishments. There are no gaps in between, failures or anything like that. you know what i mean? she is 57 and still gets the best parts for women. i mean, c'mon. i don't think it's that hard to understand why she still is the $hit. Yes, Jessica was a great actor. There is no doubt about it. BUT, her success 40% depended on her look back in those days. she was beautiful, had a tiny nose and was a blondie. but the time passed. she got older. PLUS, she fcked her face up. now obviously she can't get a job in a decent film these days. sad but true. It's Hollywood, unfortunately. yes, there are not many good parts for actresses today. That's also true. And the good ones are mostly taken by those three or four that are Meryl, Blanchett, Kidman and Winslet. but if you're gonna blame the studios and producers for hiring these actresses instead of Jessica, i'd say stop there and think twice. As i said, Jessica was a great actor, oh well actress. but she now somewhat is paying the price for getting somewhere with the look. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying she was famous for being beautiful. But certainly that's how she'll be remembered. Jessica Lange, the beautiful. Meryl Streep, the actress. i do hope you know what i'm trying to say here.
and about Meryl being everyone's favorite why don't you look at it in a different angle? like, i mean why don't you ask yourself what the reason could be that makes you fail to see the "things" that others see in her and you can't instead of asking why they think she's the best out there? you know what i mean? Question yourself why you fail to see what others see. let's see if that would help.
btw, i wanna apologize about the things i said to you before in my previous post. i didn't mean to well, okay, honestly, i did mean it at the time, cos' your comment which i found totally off the point drove me nuts, but i didn't mean to be that mean. So, i'm sorry about that.
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I have a feeling I might like her in Devil Wears Prada but haven't seen it yet. That one movie where she wears the denim jacket and sings, I can't tell you how many people have told me she reminds them of me. Mostly I'm glad that more people are saying they don't think she's ALL THAT - I just have never understood WHY so many actors say she's their favorite!!! Especially when Jessica Lange's out there acting, for instance.
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The only thing I've really enjoyed her in was "Adaptation". Really don't care for the rest of he work.

I bet there are lots of US out there, too, blimey, hahahahah!! Just watch 'em sign up. . . and tell the truth to the world.

I have to agree with moonchilddiva on this one, Meryl Streep is not a very good actor. i dont remember one film that she was in that i can say she shone. Maybe The Devil Wears Prada was o2000k.

get some manners, we are all entitled to our opinions. state yours w/o the name calling, if you can. and btw, she was AWFUL in The Deer Hunter, they should cut all her scenes OUT of the movie immediately. when I watch my favorite film, I wince when she's on.

Meryl was AMAZING in The Deer Hunter you idiot!!

You obviously don't know how to discuss on the internet - you can have your opinion of "celebs" (I won't even call her an actor) without going ballistic on people. First of all, this isn't the kiss Meryl's butt board. This is John's board. Go to the Meryl board if you want to put her on a throne. You're one of the sheep, I guess. And I'm an Awful Human Being. Ok. If not being a FAN of Streep's with EVERYONE ELSE means that, I ACCEPT. Thanks for your response. Get some manners.

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See, that's what I think, too, leskataus, that she didn't have the clout one would need to try such a move. Your description makes sense.

I've heard that's not true. What happened was the financial backers of the film wanted him off but director Michael Cimino refused to fire him. Instead, he accommodated John by fi2000lming the scenes he appeared in first in case he became too ill to work and had to leave. The story about Meryl was that she took her part in the movie to be near him. She was an up-and-coming actress at the time but not exactly a big name.

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Now your just writing to see your own words what your saying is utterly ridiculous. If you don't like her for whatever reason fine but don't be ignorant for the sake of argument. You sound very bitter also I think maybe your letting your emotions get the best of you.
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he wanted to marry her so he must've seen somethig.
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Of course she has the right to criticize. Her opinion, her right.