predictable caricature of 'latina'
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subase — 16 years ago(March 16, 2010 09:40 PM)
I would agree her performance in City of God is different to her most recent films.
Nonetheless, I doubt the directors told her to do this but she herself has taken onto imitating latinos that live in the states. (I would say mexican and a bit of puerto rico)
It is a shame you don't buy and find it offensive. But it doesn't bother me, she is an actress after all, her being brazilian is completely irrelevant. -
sasiperere — 15 years ago(May 02, 2010 10:06 AM)
edson_br is a "cmulo da ignorncia". LOL!!
E tao burro que nao vai entender isso, ha-ha-ha1!!
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aquariana — 15 years ago(July 04, 2010 06:34 PM)
Brazil is not a latin country? since when?
I was under the impression that Brazil is not a HISPANIC country, but it is a latin country for two reasons: 1. it is part of latin america 2. the spoken language is latin based. Therefore, everybody who comes from that country is latin.
You should know that portugese, spanish, italian, french and romanian ppl are latin as well, not only because of the root of the language (romance language), but because in the old days mostly, all those countries were called "latin europe. Look it up.
The problem is, that nowadays the word latin/latino/latina is used to describe somebody with hispanic descent. That term is very narrow and it doesnt fit the reality of the situation.
Somebody from Colombia is both hispanic AND latin. Brazilians are LATIN but not hispanic ( hispanic comes from hispania: latin word of Espana=Spain). Hispanics come from countries where the main language is spanishbla bla bla i think i made my point.
Even argentinians, who are from italian descent, cannot escape the fact that they are both hispanic and latin. So to say that ms. Braga is not latin because she is brazilian does not make an ounce of sense.
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Ace_Moonshot — 15 years ago(July 11, 2010 07:23 AM)
Very well said. End result the factual reality is they are latino. But not hispanic. It does get confusing at times to the layman but you'd think by now we'd have learned. Myself, I see her as Brasilian. And in no way a "caricature" of anything that she already is.
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dantt777 — 14 years ago(April 14, 2011 02:57 PM)
I agree with everything you said but one thing. The word Hispania was the name that the Romans gave for the Iberian Peninsula which includes both Portugal and Spain (and also Andorra!). So technically Brazilians could be Hispanic too. I have been to Brasil many times and demographically many areas look like Argentina and Uruguay in the South, Colombia, the Dominican Republic and Haiti in the North, and the Amazon looks just like the Amazon of Peru, Colombia or Ecuador with the same indigenous people. As far as the Asian populations, Brazil has Japanese and so does Peru and even Bolivia. Brazil has germans and so does Chile and Argentina. Brazil has jews and so do many other countries in LAC. Argentina has more people of Italian background than Brazil percentage wise. Also Venezuela has tons of people of Portuguese descent (and Italians too!). The only difference is that in Brazil your see an Eduardo Peres and in Argentina is Eduardo Perez. But the whole Latin American area regions is a big mixture bowl from the lightest to the darkest, and culturally, very diverse cultures all over the place but very similar. In the US, the race/ethnicity definitions are all over the place as far as Brazilians, some consider them Latinos some don't (wrongly), and the same with Hispanic. Also check any Latino/Hispanic festival in any US city and the Brazilian delegations is always there too. Many people in the US do not want to include Brazilians in the Latino mix too becasue then Latinos are even a greater percentage of the population and politically and socially they are scared of that.
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ts-conceicao — 10 years ago(August 01, 2015 12:48 AM)
So technically Brazilians could be Hispanic too.
That doesn't even make sense. That history predates the discovery of Brazil. Brazil never had any connection to "Hispania" or any other Roman Empire region. Following your logic, if we go millions of years ago we are all Pangeans because the continents then were together.
Also check any Latino/Hispanic festival in any US city and the Brazilian delegations is always there too.
That only proves that some Americans with Brazilian ascendence like participating in events.
Many people in the US do not want to include Brazilians in the Latino mix too
Like Brazilians themselves, because we are not?
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ts-conceicao — 10 years ago(August 01, 2015 12:40 AM)
Brazil is not a latin country? since when?
Since always. The term Latin is only used in the linguistic sense. Brazil is a country that speaks a language derived from Latin, but the actual Latins were a people from Italy.
There's no connection between the real Latins and Brazilians.
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Xcalat3 — 15 years ago(July 06, 2010 01:33 AM)
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electrobird — 15 years ago(August 01, 2010 08:32 PM)
Edson, like it or not, Brazilians are Latin Americans which is what being Latino means in the USA. Like most Brazilians you probably consider yourself and Alice Braga white, but in the US you will not be considered as so. Check your own History. When the Portuguese colonized Brazil, they didn't bring any women. So, unless you descend from Europeans who recently emigrated to Brazil, you surely have some Amerindian ancestry. Yes, there may be some discussion about Brazilians being Hispanic (although the Roman region of Hispania included Portugal), but Brazilians are Latinos by all means.
What's the problem with Hispanic people? It sounds like you don't like them (or us, lol). I am Brazilian too and I find your post disgusting. I am ashamed of you. You should travel more, because the rest of Latin America is not as different from Brazil as you like to paint. You shouldn't be ashamed of your own culture and ancestry. It's dumb. -
Photiphar — 15 years ago(November 29, 2010 02:21 PM)
Elecrtobird, yes Braga is Latina but that does not mean she is not White. Latino/Hispanic designates language and culture, not race. If you ever read a census form you will see wher5b4e it says hsipanics/latinos can be of any race. Some are Mestizo, some are mixed with Black and yes some are relatively pure Europeans. Brazil has seen a large influx of immigrants.. everything from Germans to Japanese in the earlier part of the last century. But that aside, what the OP was harping on is that just because you come from a Latin culture (Brazil) doesn't mean that one should adopt the stereotypical behavior of Chicanos or Puerto Ricans just because they also happens to be Latin. Certainly people in Brazil don't all act this way and have their own unique idiosyncracies etc. I think what's dumb is the stereotype that Hollywood has cut out for Latinos and other ehtnicities. To play into them is to do your own people a disservice.
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ts-conceicao — 10 years ago(July 31, 2015 01:15 PM)
Latino/Hispanic designates language and culture, not race.
That's the problem. What i2000s a "Latino" culture? There's no "Latino" culture in the world, only in the US.
you come from a Latin culture (Brazil)
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afcaetano — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 10:23 AM)
The problem for some middle class Brazilians brought up on a steady diet of American movies, sitcoms and TV series, is that they don't want be lumped up with the dark-skinned, poor, barely able to speak English Latino stereotype portrayed therein. Never mind that most Brazilian immigrants to the US fit that stereotype to a t. Never mind also that likewise snobbish well-off Colombians, Argentinians, Mexicans etc also partake in the prejudice don't want to get confused with the Latino stereotype too.
No, that must be because Brazil is
completely different
from the rest of Latin America (which is of course, very homogeneous) and oh-so special. Right. And shame on Alice for not playing Swedish or Icelandic roles. -
VexLuthor — 14 years ago(May 30, 2011 01:40 PM)
I kinda get what he was trying to say, although not correcty. Brazil is a multicultural country, and people here don't like the fact that a lot o people think we look just like mexicans and speak spanish. No offense to Mexico or to the Spanish languages, but there are many differences.
Depending on the region or the ascendance, people in Brazil may or may not look like hispanic people. If you descend from native americans, you may look a bit like them.
For example, I have portuguese, italian and a little bit of native american blood.
When I went to NY with my mom and my sister, people usually thought my mother was Italian and my sister was hispanic.
Since I have fair skin, they didn't think I was from latin america at first. Then after hearing my accent, they wanted to speak spanish with me. When I tried to explain I didn't speak spanish very well and I more fluent in English, they looked at me like I was a lunatic. -
BewareOfTheAvalanche — 11 years ago(July 28, 2014 07:33 PM)
Brazil is a multicultural country, a7ecnd people here don't like the fact that a lot o people think we look just like mexicans and speak spanish.
I don't like that done to my culture neither, but people are ignorant and it's easier for them to lump everyone in just one bag. Many Latinos also lump themselves in the same place and promote stereotypes.
Depending on the region or the ascendance, people in Brazil may or may not look like hispanic people.
You can't look like someone Hispanic, Hispanic is an umbrella for SPanish speaking cultures related to Spain. The stereotype is that Hispanics look like Mexicans, most of whom are mestizos, but many Hispanic, specially those from the Caribbean, are mulattoes and might have Amerindian blood as well. -
ts-conceicao — 10 years ago(July 31, 2015 01:10 PM)
Edson, like it or not, Brazilians are Latin Americans which is what being Latino means in the USA.
The problem is context. The term "latin american" only makes sense in a linguistic context, when in the US it is used as an "ethnicity".
There's no shared history between Brazil and the other neighboring countries. Neither genetics. Perhaps the only other country who can claim some shared past is Portugal, but that's all.
Brazilians may be "latino-americ2000anos" because they speak Portuguese, but are not "Latinos" because they are not "Mexicans".
I agree with the original poster. It's ridiculous.
BTW, "Latins" where one of the ancestral peoples of the ancient Romans. Far away from Brazil and totally unrelated. -
mel_portela — 12 years ago(September 22, 2013 08:10 PM)
Jesus F* Christ!
It's amazing how people try so hard to assure themselves.
There is such a huge complex about not being white that they defend with their lives the slightest possibility of posing as one.
Everytime I come to a non-american/european artist's thread is the same thing. It seems like the background of the person means more than the acting skills.
But the worst part is the misconceptions about race, ethnicity and the human geography as well.
Shame on all the desperate people that are clearly mixed and deny it!
By the way, I am a proud multiracial Brazilian girl!
I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.