How does this guy keep getting films?
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SiriusGrande — 9 years ago(April 26, 2016 04:14 AM)
It's funny but there are a lot of actors like him.
I agree. Nothing about him really stands out to me. I jumped on the bandwagon with Phantom of the Opera, but that was mainly about a good-looking man playing one of my favorite characters in the film version of one of my favorite musicals. It wouldn't have mattered who the actor was, so long as he made my heart go pitter-pat in the Phantom costume. It wasn't his
acting
that caught my attention, LOL. And once the mask came off and I delved into his other work, it seemed with each film I watched, my opinion of him as an actor became less and less. He was okay, but nothing all that remarkable. PSILY and 300 kind of ended my infatuation because I could not deny that whatever this guy looks like, his acting just does nothing for me.
And now I don't even find him physically appealing. The weird way he talks with his mouth all sideways is off-putting to me. Weird.
But other people love him. And hey, more power to them. Everybody has their poison.
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CherryHoney — 9 years ago(April 26, 2016 07:48 AM)
I think he has his moments where he looks almost handsome but for the most part, I agree. He's lost what he once had. He's really aged a lot. It was more evident than ever in the long version of the Thunderbirds flight he flew. He reminded me of my old uncle with weird facial mannerisms. Maybe it's his aging and limited acting ability combined that makes him almost a shadow of his former self. Maybe it's time for him to stop trying to play lead and step down to doing only character appearances. Others do it well.
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computerbunny — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 08:54 PM)
by MaskOfRain11 1 day ago (Sun Apr 24 2016 12:37:58)
IMDb member since November 2015
He's such a bad actor
Plays the same wooden character every time, how is he still getting work!?
Even for action films and the beep popcorn flicks he's actually working on, there's so many better people that could be cast
ARGHHH.
Maybe you will like Gerry in this movie:
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"The Headhunters Calling"
. Directed by Mark Williams, this is an exceptionally well written script by Bill Dubuque. The story largely takes place in the competitive world the boiler-room office and a father who is detached from his family must find a way to connect with his son when he's faced with illness. The son has an interest in Chicago architecture and teaches his father about appreciating the simple beautiful things that are right in front of him. Gerard Butler plays the lead roll and was very excited to star in this very delicately written piece. I always enjoy seeing an actor take a chance and work outside their safety zones. For me, I try to take the camera on a similar journey in these cases Work outside my safety zone as well and create a united front between the director, actors and myself so that they can feel safe and supported and have some faith that the camera will be there for them when they need it. It must be tough for these actors to challenge themselves like this and I try to constantly monitor what they might be needing so that the crew can help them. In addition, first time director (but quite experienced producer) Mark Williams had an intimate understanding of the material and since the characters all go through massive changes in the telling of the story, was enormously helpful in establishing the faceted arc for the narrative. Personally, I'd swear he's done 10 films. He's a natural. Ultimately this film is about understanding people and how the right thing is often not the easiest thing, and I think this same idea is what we strived for in the sprit in the cinematography as well.
For the poison of hatred seated near the heart doubles the burden for the one who suffers the disease; he is burdened with his own sorrow, and groans on seeing another's happiness.
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computerbunny — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 11:20 PM)
by barberry2 6 minutes ago (Mon Apr 25 2016 23:09:28)
IMDb member since August 2006
Gerard Butler plays the lead
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Butterflake or crescent?
Definition of roll: turn or cause to turn over to face a different direction:
Maybe this is a good sign?
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"Humor is mankind's greatest blessing".
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joe16vind — 9 years ago(April 26, 2016 05:14 PM)
MaskofRain,
I saw this yesterday and between work/writing/watching my Spurs play basketball and other stuff, I didn't have time to respond
so here goes
everyone here is/seems to be highly critical of him,his manner of speaking/how he speaks (someone mentioned he might have a slight speech impediment, if he does that would account for talking to one side of his mouth), his acting or lack thereof ability, his choice of scripts, his physicality and his physical appearance, how he continues to work with overall poor box office, his fronting products
for myself, I don't care how an actor looks as beauty or handsomeness is in eye of the beholder. (Alright, alright, I admit I find Tom Hardy incredibly sexy lol). My aunt told me growing up, you age the way you want.
I didn't follow him since PS I Love You (remembered the ads/poster seemed a bit maudlin to me, generating no interest) or Phantom or 300- I tagged along with my brother to see 300 and my mom and I saw Phantom 1) we were unable to see the original Broadway production with Crawford and Brightman and 2) my mom reasoned how bad could this cast ruin this beautiful music? We were very much surprised at how beautiful he sounded (capturing the wounded vulnerability of the Phantom), singing Music of the Night. Sometimes when I can't sleep, I listen to him/Brightman/Mathis. I find him comforting to listen to. His version of L.A. Woman doesn't compare with Morrison's- the band I grew up alongside of) but its infectious fun.
In looking at his filmography, I had seen him in few other things and he was just there for me/or failed to register altogether. Sometimes when I am intrigued by an actor, I will look to see what other things he has done (thanks Computerbunny for recommending Dear Frankie- he was tenderly effective and HeadHunter's Calling. Am looking foward to the latter if only to see him as a totally different "badass" ). Sometimes you like an actor in one role and not in others. To each his own.
I've a different perspective of him than most here as I work at a local film studio and have tried to share some insight into how studios work. Critical approbation is/can be important/Oscar noms and acknowledgment by one's peers is/maybe crucial to how one measure's success. The bottom line is earning money and making profit. And there have been a few times when Butler's work has fuffilled that requirement.
annie
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computerbunny — 9 years ago(April 26, 2016 10:03 PM)
Thanks Annie for another very interesting post. I think Gerry has done amazingly well for someone with his facial and speech problems. Here is an article about those problems:
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2010/03/11/gerard_butler_shocked_by_his_deformed_
Gerard Butler Shocked By His Deformed Ear
3/11/2010 3:00pm EST
"Actor Gerard Butler only learned he had a deformed ear when he had to shave his head for his role opposite Angelina Jolie in the "Tomb Raider" sequel.
The Scot reveals ear surgery when he was a child left him with a mangled ear - but he wasn't aware how lopsided his head looked until he got into character for the 2003 film.
He tells the upcoming issue of Men's Journal magazine he was born with "sticking-out ears," but his right one was pressed back in following surgery to save his hearing following a bout of tinnitus.
Butler says, "I didn't realize it until I had to shave my head for that movie (Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life). Everyone went, 'Holy beep111c one ear sticks out way more than the other one!' And we literally had to glue it back."
The Scot's hearing problems are also to blame for his "crooked smile."
Butler, who still suffers from tinnitus and is hard of hearing in his right ear, explains, "I know a couple of other people with crooked smiles, and it turns out they're hard of hearing in one ear. When I was younger, I looked like I had a stroke".
Annie, when you have time, watch Gerry in one of his earliest roles:
The Jury (TV Mini-Series)
Johnnie Donne- Episode #1.6 (2002) Johnnie Donne
- Episode #1.5 (2002) Johnnie Donne
- Episode #1.4 (2002) Johnnie Donne
- Episode #1.3 (2002) Johnnie Donne
- Episode #1.2 (2002) Johnnie Donne
Most everyone loves his performance in this highly acclaimed British Mini-Series.
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it"
Confucius
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joe16vind — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 12:20 AM)
Computerbunny,
before drifting to sleep I wanted to say thank you for telling me
I've never read any interviews with/about him- I didn't know- given the circumstances, I agree he has done amazingly well
as my Aunt always said don't act ugly because others are
I'll try and find The Jury if I can- with there being so few brick/mortar film stores, it will be an awfully big adventure! Interesting that his character is named Johnnie Donne- one poet whom I liked in high school and continue to- was John Donne!
"But the years, that take the best away,
Give something in the end;" Rupert Brooke
"Beauty is that which pleases and Delights" - Kant (Hey I gotta use my undergrad philsophy degree sometime!!!!!!!!!! -
computerbunny — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 01:25 PM)
by joe16vind » 12 hours ago (Wed Apr 27 2016 00:20:07)
IMDb member since February 2003
Computerbunny,
before drifting to sleep I wanted to say thank you for telling me
I've never read any interviews with/about him- I didn't know- given the circumstances, I agree he has done amazingly well
as my Aunt always said don't act ugly because others are
I'll try and find The Jury if I can- with there being so few brick/mortar film stores, it will be an awfully big adventure! Interesting that his character is named Johnnie Donne- one poet whom I liked in high school and continue to- was John Donne!
Annie, the actress Helen McCrory who is in this mini series, is responsible for "The Jury" being made available on YouTube:
The Jury (TV mini-series 2002) - Episode 1
The Jury (TV mini-series 2002) - Episode 2
The Jury (TV mini-series 2002) - Episode 3
The Jury (TV mini-series 2002) - Episode 4
The Jury (TV mini-series 2002) - Episode 5
[irl]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I28Mff73wHE
The Jury (TV mini-series 2002) - Episode 6
I hope everyone who has not seen "The Jury" will take the time to watch this excellent and engrossing series.
"I wish to do something Great and Wonderful, but I must start by doing the little things like they were Great and Wonderful" -Albert Einstein -
joe16vind — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 05:11 PM)
computerbunny
thanks ever so much
with my Spurs not playing til Saturday evening, this L.A. Woman can begin watching these tonight!
will let you know what I think- perhaps if I've a block of time I'll binge watch all episodes
take care
annie
"On my signal, unleash hell" Maximus -
joe16vind — 9 years ago(April 29, 2016 04:56 PM)
computerbunny,
I began The Jury Wednesday night as I said I would, returning late Thursday to binge watch the remaining 4 episodes- I'm a wee bit tired but it was worth it!
Work can't end quickly enough!
Thanks for recommending it to me
it plays like 12 Angry Men meeting A Time to Kill- I caught the reference to the former
here in the States, case such as this,would have sequestered the Jury once they were empaneled. At times, it was less about the bully's murder and more concerned with the 12 and their lives. And in typical defense attorney fashion, creating denialable plausiblity had to be cast to absolve the defendant. Do I believe he killed the bully? yes. It might have been slightly improved if we could have seen what the defendant endured; as it is we only have his word as to the injuries he sustained.
re: Johnny Donne - I could see he'd become caring toward her I knew nothing good would come of his infatuation. The kindness he showed her at the onset would not be returned. Before seeing anything of Rose's homelife, I knew she was stuck in a loveless marriage. The kiss he gave her should never have been.
For myself, the best friendship was between Bunce's seminary student and the old lady who knew her life was being cut short. Where Bunce extends his elbow to her and she takes it, the wordless scene was tremondously effective. It takes a lot to make me cry and when he tells her he will look after her, I did.
(Sidebar- Bunce will always be for me 2nd LT. Wilfred Owen, considered to be the greatest War Poet ever. While he is the near antithesis of Rupert Brooke, I'll never have the chance to meet Owen. However with Bunce's spot-on portrayal in Regeneration, I feel that I've.)
What can be said of Butler? He was tender/poignant and who broke my heart. The hurt on his face said so very much without him saying much of anything. It saddened me that she should use him in the manner she did. When he ran toward the pub, I was screaming at the television- Run Past- please run past. In his room trying to find solace in drink was not worth it. To give in and lose what he was trying to become, returning to who he'd been was heartbreaking.
So many believe this is his best work. I don't want to say it is and to have achieved it at age 32 was remarkable indeed. I like to think he can find it within himself, to do it once more. We'll see, won't we?
annie
"Escape. Adventure. Rescue. is that you? " Johnny Donne -
computerbunny — 9 years ago(April 29, 2016 10:53 PM)
by joe16vind » 4 hours ago (Fri Apr 29 2016 16:56:06)
What can be said of Butler? He was tender/poignant and who broke my heart. The hurt on his face said so very much without him saying much of anything.
It saddened me that she should use him in the manner she did. When he ran toward the pub, I was screaming at the television- Run Past- please run past. In his room trying to find solace in drink was not worth it. To give in and lose what he was trying to become, returning to who he'd been was heartbreaking.
So many believe this is his best work. I don't want to say it is and to have achieved it at age 32 was remarkable indeed. I like to think he can find it within himself, to do it once more. We'll see, won't we?
annie
Annie, I am so glad that you took the time to watch "The Jury". I have watched it a few times through the years, and always find something new to admire about the production. The same goes for the "The Jewel In The Crown". This was another mesmerizing British Granadab68 Television Production, made in 1984. A & E put it out on four DVDs in 2001. If you can get hold of these four DVD's, you will remember this spellbinding production forever.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/archive/76/76.html
Regarding Gerry's acting in "The Jury", I thought he was perfect in that role. A part like that does not come to an actor very often. Also, I think his work in "Phantom of the Opera" was outstanding. I saw the original production in London which was gorgeous, but I liked the movie more. Gerry did an amazing singing and acting job. Another role I liked him in was RocknRolla. Not great art but much fun to watch. I know you have watched "Dear Frankie", which was such a lovely movie, and written and directed by women.In spite of some other opinions on this board about his acting, I think Gerry still has it in him to give his best when a really challenging role comes along in the future.
More than kisses, letters mingle souls.
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barberry2 — 9 years ago(April 30, 2016 12:58 AM)
I like to think he can find it within himself, to do it once more. We'll see, won't we?
Yes, we will. I think this upcoming, tearjerking, son with cancer movie will be the test. If it is too maudlin or overacted, he will have squandered an excellent opportunity. Could he surprise with an outstanding performance? I'm not ruling that out. -
barberry2 — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 01:40 PM)
I'll try and find The Jury if I can- with there being so few brick/mortar film stores, it will be an awfully big adventure!
annie,
The dvd is available on Amazon for about $15. This is a very good price for so many episodes, and it was not previously for sale.
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joe16vind — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 05:15 PM)
barberry2,
thanks much
I will begin watching these episodes tonight and if I like what I see, I'll definitely purchase from Amazon where I have a Prime Account
have a wonderful evening
annie
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SiriusGrande — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 04:34 PM)
(Alright, alright, I admit I find Tom Hardy incredibly sexy lol)
I do too, but I don't think I'd find him as sexy if he wasn't such a damn talented actor. If he were some dude walking down the street, I don't know that I'd give him a second look. He's kind of short, has wonky teeth.
But he is mesmerizing to watch on screen, with tons of presence. Hard to take your eyes off of him.
Nine times out of ten, the reason I've become infatuated with an actor is because of one of his performances. And it's usually because they've played a character so well that I fall for that character. When the actor proves to be a sort of cool guy too, that's just gravy.
The first time Kylo Ren appears in The Force Awakens I was like "Okay, I love this character." When he took his mask off later and I saw Adam Driver's face, I was like, "Uhhh, no." Not what I expected. By the end of the movie I was still super intrigued by the character, and therefore, had to see what else Adam had done since it was HIS performance that kept me interested in Kylo. I've loved Adam in everything else I've seen him in, and I now find him incredibly attractive.
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joe16vind — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 05:36 PM)
SiriusGrande,
on the way home from work when I saw your response to my Tom Hardy comment
I first saw him as Eames in Inception and found him to be incredibly talented, sexy and intelligent which is what I like about him
I've seen everything since Inception he has done save for Peaky Blinders/a film short/London Road- looking forward to seeing Taboo. Was irritated that he was almost an afterthought in Max Max Fury Road- it should have been titled Furiousa/suffered thru that idiotic romcom he did This Means5b4 War-talk about utter predicatiblity I knew from the opening scene Pine was getting Witherspoon but I appreciated Hardy was offered a romantic lead
The role I like him best in? Locke- a tale well told, simple in its execution, minimalist in tone, poignant in its resolution. He is the sole person on screen and he is mesmerising!
If you haven't seen him in Locke, do.
annie
"No matter what the situation is, you can make it good." Locke -
SiriusGrande — 9 years ago(April 27, 2016 07:11 PM)
Annie,
I have yet to see Locke, but I definitely want to. I'm also excited to see Legend and Child 44.
I haven't seen everything he's in, but I've seen quite a lot. I first noticed Tom in Inception too, though I never really paid attention to his name or thought much about him afterward. I just remember thinking he was acting circles around Leo, and that was impressive since I've always liked Leo. It was Bane that made me sit up and take notice of Tom Hardy. I was spellbound by that character! I think it was the swagger. After that, I started paying attention to him, watched some of his earlier work (Bronson!), and when Lawless came out, I was hooked.
As for Peaky Blinders, I started watching it because I knew Tom was in it, but wound up becoming a Cillian Murphy fan thanks to the show. He's another one that I was aware of, but hadn't really paid much attention to. Sometimes it just takes the right role to grab your attention. I love that show.
I'm looking forward to future installments of Mad Max. I enjoyed Fury Road a lot, even though, as you say, Max is almost a supporting character.