her german is almost accent free
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bluerisk — 19 years ago(April 06, 2007 03:42 PM)
Naja, dein Englisch ist ja fast so schlecht wie das meinige (=> 8 Pkt. Grundkurs).
Sie hat wohl Franzsisch gelernt, weil a) Frauen genrell ein Handling fr Sprachen haben, b) es 5b4in Kanada eine groe frz.-sprachige Gemeinde gibt und c) diese sehr darum bemht ist die frz. Sprache zu pflegen.
Dein Argument, dass Franzsisch Teil der romanischen bzw. Englisch und Deutsch Teil der germanischen Sprachfamilie sind und es frderhin unntig sei mehrere Sprachen aus einer Familie zu lernen, halte ich fr illlegitim. Warum sollte ich dann z.B. noch Latein lernen?
berhaupt mgen die Sprache verwand sein, aber sie bleiben doch jeweils fr sich eigenstndige Entitten.
I too am bilingual ist z.B. ziemlich daneben:
Ich bin auch zweisprachig. => Deutsch
I am too belingual. => Englisch, wortwrtlich bersetzt
I'm bilingual too. => Englisch wie man es wohl korrekt anwenden wrde.
Oder:
I'm also bilingual.
Ich htte z.B. auch eher geschrieben:
I might be wrong
oder
She learned just a language.
Englisch ist lngst nicht so verwand mit dem Deutschen wie es einst mal war.
Whrend Deutsch noch immer eine flektierende Sprache ist, entwickelt das Englische starke Tendenzen zur isolierenden Sprache.
Hinzu kommen noch Unterschiede in der Syntax (I often play football und nicht wie im Deutschen Ich spiele oft Fuball).
Auch werden die Zeiten teilweise anders angewand.
I know what you did last summer => Ich wei was du letzten Sommer getan hast.
Prteritum vs. 5b4Perfekt
Wenn die Handlung zeitlich determiniert ist (last summer), wird im Engl. die unvollendete Vergangeheit benutzt, ansonsten die vollendete Gegenwart. Im Deutschen hingegen wird immer das Perfekt benutzt.
Im Englischen gibt es zudem eine Verlaufsform, im Deutschen (in der Standardsprache) hingegen nicht.
Es gibt noch viele Beispiele, wo sich die Deutsche und Englische Sprache unterscheiden.
Bei einem Europer knnte es in Sinn machen Deutsch, Englisch und Franzsisch zu lernen, da dies die drei hufigsten Sprachen der EU sind.
In Kanada ist es naheliegend Franzsisch zu lernen; bei Chalke kommt noch hinzu, dass sie Deutsche Eltern hat.
Ich bin kein ausgeklgelt Buch, ich bin ein Mensch mit seinem Widerspruch.
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ranmalein — 18 years ago(December 17, 2007 10:44 AM)
a german judging somebody else's german grammar? funny
i'm from austria (so sorry about the racist comment lol it was just a joke ;] )
in my opninion she did very good. sure, it's not accent-free, but she did a good job. i could understand her, and i can't think of any other movie oder tv-show where the germans are understandable and they often make big grammar mistakes!
anyway, i really think it's quite interesting how ignorant americans can be (yeah, it still surprises me!) why do you think it's totally normal everyone else learns english but you don't have to learn any foreign language? i only speak german and english, i should be able to speak french (5 years in school and i can't even make smalltalk ;D )and wish i could speak some other languages, i'm just too lazy to learn them hihi
anyway, i do understand people don't want to learn german. it sure is a difficult language, maybe especially when you only speak english! the grammar really is extremely different!
anyway, i'm not trying to discourage anyone here lol
nur mut, ihr schafft das!
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ranmalein — 18 years ago(February 23, 2008 02:51 AM)
i'm not judging americans based on imdb. and i'm not talking about all americans, of course not! but i'd say there are a lot more ignorant americans than most other countries. it's not the people's fault, really. it all starts in school, i guess. you don't have to learn things that are totally normal to learn in other countries, like austria. and the less you know, the more ignorant you get. it's sad you don't have to learn as much geography or languages as people have to in other countries.
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Sally1829 — 12 years ago(April 18, 2013 05:26 PM)
"anyway, i really think it's quite interesting how ignorant americans can be (yeah, it still surprises me!) why do you think it's totally normal everyone else learns english but you don't have to learn any foreign language? i only speak german and english, i should be able to speak french (5 years in school and i can't even make smalltalk ;D )and wish i could speak some other languages, i'm just too lazy to learn them hihi "
It is totally disgraceful that we don't learn any other languages in school as children. On the other hand, (1) English is the international language of business, so we're set there, and (2) the entirety of Europe, with its 6+ languages, is less than 1/2 the size of the US. In other words, you can get on a train and go to places were people speak other languages. People who speak other languages can get on trains and visit you. Here, our northern neighbors speak English (yes, and Quebecois, but mostly English). If Austria were the size of the US and the world's business were conducted in the Austrian dialect of German, Austrians probably wouldn't learn English and French as children.
By which I meanyeah, it is a shame. On the other hand, there are some good reasons why languages haven't been a priority in the USA. And, if other populations faced circumstances similar to ours, they might just readjust their priorities accordingly. That said, I speak broken German (studied it in high school and college) and a little French, and I really wish I'd had earlier and more comprehensive language training. -
HalfBrokenGlass — 19 years ago(April 09, 2007 08:04 PM)
Woah, German is NOT similar to English. I speak fluent English and can understand about 3 words in Germanall because my mom and fiance both learned it in school.
Similar languages are things like Spanish and Italian. I speak Spanish and can understand about half of the things that are said in Italian (I can't speak it, of course, but I can understand it).
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lil96 — 18 years ago(April 10, 2007 07:22 AM)
English is a descendant of German languages. Thereare many similarities in the two, if someone is speaking Bavarian b68(a dialect of German), words are said the same even though they are spelled different- fire feuer both pronounced like english fire
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rednelak-imdb — 18 years ago(October 06, 2007 08:05 AM)
I found the youtube clip: http://youtube.com/watch?v=C3oh0Spk_U0
As a german, I would say it's understandable but not accent free; it's typical "american german accent", I think
Hm I discovered this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zfo1rjHUrKc here she speaks better german, but the accents sounds like german speaking people from netherlands^^ -
KrefTL — 10 years ago(March 13, 2016 11:27 AM)
No. For German is not the same as Germanic. German is todays language in Germany, Austria, parts of Switzerland and Liechtenstein, Germanic is an ancient language and common root to modern languages like German, Swedish, Danish, Dutch or English.
German and English are West Germanic languages. They separated more than a thousand years ago. So if you say, that English is a descendant of German, that is simply wrong, English, just like German, is a descendant of the West Germanic language. -
canesamo — 18 years ago(September 08, 2007 12:04 AM)
Why would anyone learn German? Maybe because it's a very interesting language. Maybe because you want to travel in Germany and not sound like an idiot. Maybe because you're a language major in college. Or a music major, like me.
I have no idea why Sarah Chalke learned German, if she did. But I can think of plenty2000 of reasons why I'd want to (and am going to.) -
jo-parkins — 18 years ago(September 15, 2007 05:50 PM)
So, because 'Fire' and the german 'feuer' are pronounced similarly, it makes it unnecessary to learn German if you already speak English? Absolute boll**ks. I speak both fluently - I mean actually to the point where I can interchange one with the other. I lived in Germany for many years, I grew up there and attended German primary and some of secondary school and I can assure you, the similarities are as many or as few as many languages have with each other. There are cross overs in many. Anyway, bluerisk puts it best, quite frankly - they must either be a fellow linguistics student or just very interested in the history, make up and accuracy of language.
Regardless, Sarah Chalke has German parentage, and probably learned it growing up (the easiest time to learn, even better if surrounded by the 'foreign' language'.) Learning any second language is extremely difficult and takes time and effort to become efficient in it. Just because languages are 'related' in a distant, geographical way (albeit very distant now) does not make it easy or 'pointless'. Do not insult me, or others who have made the effort to learn several other languages for what ever reason that may be. I speak Spanish and Italian to a certain level, they have similarities but they are separate languages, with their own rules and vocabulary - they need to be learned individually and appreciated.
Anyhoo, there are a lot of links and cross overs, but there are just as many divisions and separations making it worthwhile learning each language rather than relying on a knowledge of one 'type' of language. Trust me, I can not make myself as understood in Spanish in ITaly as I think I am. -
jones-79 — 18 years ago(September 17, 2007 05:23 AM)
Ms. Chalke might be quite fluent in German (can't tell from the few lines in Scrubs), but accent free she's not (kinda hard to understand actually), and she makes mistakes even on screen. You would think they'd double check those lines.
And yeah, German and English are Germanic languages. Whoopie. Doesn't make one of them redundant. If you don't need another language, good for you. -
flaviabrowne — 18 years ago(September 23, 2007 12:50 AM)
well i'm from australia but have my family is from7ec germany. i learn german, not because i have to, but because it gives me a link with my past that i would not have if i just spoke english.
i've been to germany 3 times (a big effort considering i'm 16) and being able to speak to my relatives in their mother tongue is something that i find really cool. i mean, they all speak english, but it's not the same!
to say that german and english are "pretty much the same" is completely stupid and devoid of any thought. i havent' been learning the language for 6 years for nothing. it's a beep hard language for those learning it. i think it's great that someone like sarah chalke would learn it, for the same kinds of reasons that i did.
people learn languages for all kinds of reasons. people may have preconceptions about german, but i think it's a great language! i would like to think that people born in english speaking countries would extend the same courtesy to those born in non-english speaking countries by learning a second language.
we expect them to learn english, but somehow it doesn't work back the other way.
well, at least that's what it's like in australia!
so, deutschland! viele, viele schoene grusse aus australien!
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Conney — 18 years ago(September 27, 2007 04:40 PM)
i think her german is great. i'm german and she did a perfect job. i was pretty stunned by the "schnitzel" sentence.
her german was much better than the germans' german.
their german was not understandable.
and btw, sarah chalke rocks!
Conney