Tragic and stupid mistake
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filmbuff-63 — 20 years ago(March 09, 2006 07:21 AM)
It's all about personal responsibility. Take responsibility for the dangerous tools in your house and keep them out of the wrong hands.
I don't know the stats. All I do know is that cars kill more people and I've never had an accident in my house with a gun. I've only drawn it once and never pointed it at anyone.
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StoneGriffin — 19 years ago(December 04, 2006 05:39 PM)
by - Shan-12 on Tue Feb 21 2006 00:47:49
Apparently guns in the home kill many more people in accidents than are used successfully against intruders. Any truth in that?
No. That's not true. That 'sound bite' comes from a thoroughly discredited 'study' by Dr. Arthur Kellerman, an outspoken opponent of gun ownership. He took all deaths by firearms during a two month period in Seattle and Tacoma, and compared the people killed and whether or not (a) they died in their own homes or (b) they were killed by people they knew. Well he listed SUICIDES and Being shot by the Police as part of the total number, which is hogwash. His study has been thoroughly debunked but is still quoted from time to time, which is unfortunate since it is based on a LIE. By his own admission, he started out this 'study' with the INTENT to prove that owning guns is dangerous to the owners Gee nothing biased about THAT. -
Captain_Augustus_McCrae — 13 years ago(September 18, 2012 10:57 AM)
Shan-12,
No, there is no truth in that. A number of people die in home accidents involving firearms, but guns are used for self-defense an estimated 2,000,000 times a year in the USA. Accidents involving surgeons kill far more people every year than accidents with firearms. Shall we ban surgeons?
"It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's LIVING!"
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Jack_1515 — 19 years ago(December 14, 2006 07:35 PM)
No I wouldn't dumb ass. Don't projec16d0t your redneck politics onto what I was saying. Especially for self-defense handguns are designed for killing people. He just reinforces what I said, handguns are designe dfor killing.
How many of those snakes rabbits, possums and armadillos did you eat? You probably shot them for the hellava it. So glad you don't have a problem with handguns, but most people who do own handguns do not follow the rules and the common good overrules special priviledges of the few funded by elite rich right-wing political action groups. Handguns should be more strictly controlled and regulated and limited to certain professions or lifestyles (farnmer/rancher) where they might need them. But most people don't need them and shouldn't have access to them. -
ivc7-1 — 19 years ago(March 03, 2007 11:02 PM)
Oh, for someone who claims 'facts' are so important, you make the mistake of claiming 'most people who do own handguns do not follow the rules..'. Based on what? Same goes for owning guns. The whole last segment of that post is nonsensical. If true, there would far, far more accidents than what few there are every year. People do eat snakes, if they aren't killed as a nuisence, rabbits are very common tablefare and even armadillos recipies aren't that hard to find. I'd say in this post, your not right about much.
And if you're referring to the NRA, you might want to look at the number of members it carries. That would be an awful lot of 'elite rich'. -
Z-S — 19 years ago(May 03, 2006 01:49 AM)
The actors don't own the guns on the set. You can't expect that they know anything about safety, somebody did in this case. There should be a person that is resposible for firearms on the set and ultimately when stupid people are allowed to do stupid things with a weapon they bear the responsibility. It's just like giving the keys to your car to somebody that's too drunk to walk straight. They might not know better, but you do or you should.
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dg-7 — 19 years ago(June 12, 2006 12:14 PM)
Yes, having read Jennifer O'Neill's biography and the various articles about Hexum's death, you get a portrait of a man who was exhausted, and not thinking clearly, which led to his tragic death. Like most of you, I remember watching "Voyagers" as a kid. Would he have a big star? I don't think so, but he would've some future. You know, he would've made David Hasselhoff or Richard Dean Anderson irrelevant, at the very least. The tragedy is that he was a young, good looking guy whose life was cut short way too soon.
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MovieBuffMarine — 19 years ago(January 09, 2007 08:37 AM)
I see a lot of
"blame the tools and blame the system"
around here. Whatever happened to
personal responsibility?
JEH was no kid, he was an adult who did a BONEHEAD act! That might be harsh, but that's what happened. -
VBliss31383 — 13 years ago(September 27, 2012 08:05 PM)
Thank you for saying nice things about Jon-Erik, as opposed to others that will say the absolute most obnoxious things about his accident.
If you want another opinion on what happened, read my site, TenaflyGuy.com, and see the Jack's story page, and then click on the link on the bottom to take you to even more info.
That's a lot easier than me typing out my opinion here. LOL! ;o)
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biggestfitz — 17 years ago(October 14, 2008 07:55 PM)
This is certainly an argument we will never settle on a message board, but I believe it is an important argument for us to have.
I have a personal experience with a handgun that I would like to relate. When I was 12 years old, I was handed an "unloaded" pistol at a party. We were laughing and joking around; my buddies were prompting me to shoot the gun at various things and people in the room. Something in the back of my mind told me not to fire the gun at anyone or anything. I had been told many times to NEVER point a gun at anyone.
I didn't want to look like a wimp to my buddies; I pointed the gun out an open door into an open field, and I pulled the trigger. As most of you could guess, the pistol wasn't unloaded. Luckily, nobody was hurt, and we all learned a very healthy respect for weapons both loaded and unloaded.
My good fortune could be attributed to good luck, karma etc. I believe it was the fact that I had been taught about the danger of firearms as a child. My family weren't huge gun people, but there were firearms around the house. We were taught very simple rules. Most importantly, never point a gun at anyone you don't intend to shoot and kill.
I am now an adult, and I choose not to own a gun for many reasons. One of the primary reasons being a handgun is a very good offensive weapon, but it is not a great defensive weapon. This is especially true when one must scramble to retrieve it from it's lockbox, closet or bedside table while they fear an intruder may be in the next room.
IMHO, the right to bear arms is not absolute, and those who do choose to bear them have an immense responsibility to protect themselves and everyone else from the potential dangers they inherently present.
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corinnacarpenter — 12 years ago(September 01, 2013 11:05 PM)
People also use handguns to shoot for fun at a gun range. It's a sport,if you will. I would like to learn how to use a handgun myself.
I just cannot fathom that a man of 26 would mess around with a weapon. He should have known better.
Corinna Loves Bob