Politically correctness is really going balistic. What onm earth is racist about his pun about a Pakistani cloakroom att
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — David Jason
Thorsten-Krings — 17 years ago(March 26, 2009 01:49 AM)
Politically correctness is really going balistic. What onm earth is racist about his pun about a Pakistani cloakroom attendant? it was just a play on language, he never made any negative remark.
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paulgraygras72 — 17 years ago(March 26, 2009 04:13 AM)
well said, it was very funny and a play on words, this countrys broadcasters and government should do more about the muslim extremeists preaching hate and spend less time stamping down on this fine actor who meant no offence with a harmless joke.
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dannyboy123 — 17 years ago(March 26, 2009 06:20 AM)
I was pissed off the moment i read this. Thanks to the overreactive nature of the media and all the boring old farts in this country a small comment like this is enough to get someones career buried when in the first place they didn't mean any harm.
David Jason isn't a racist at all, it was funny and wasn't meant in a negative way at all. You watch though, they'll probably try to blow this up to Russell Brand/Jonathon Ross proportions. -
Thorsten-Krings — 17 years ago(March 27, 2009 02:03 AM)
racism is defined as: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races. I cannot see how David Jasons pun about a Pakistani cloak room attendant would fall into this category. Sir David simply delivered a play on words, i.e. the homophony (well almost) between the request and the name. I cant really see anything offensive about this and Im pretty sure that there are cloakroom attendants of all ethnic origins. However, I find it absolutely appalling that Sir David is abused in such a manner since being called a racist is a very nasty insult tantamount to slander.
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goodnightandgoodluckyou — 17 years ago(March 27, 2009 08:29 AM)
To be honest I don't even get the joke, yes I'm an idiot etc etc I really think it is far easier to catch people out like this and make a quick money by blowing it up to such proportions. It's easier to do this than to tackle the real problems which we all know. It's even entertaining to some people.
However, is David not aware of the current climate we live in? Why make this joke? Surely there are other jokes? Of course you can say well why say anything at all for fear and you might want to add in an analogy but he really didn't have to say what he did.
Another thing is Pakistani PEOPLE and I put emphasis on the word PEOPLE, well they HAVE been mocked in the past. I'm not saying David was mocking them, I actually dont know if he was, I'5b4m just making a point that people are sensitive for a reason. Someone once said to me what is so wrong in calling someone a "paki"..(and by the way I do not liken that to what David said) they could NOT get what IS so wrong. Which is something very sensitive and rather hard to put into words.
Racism goes beyond name calling, you never know what another person is thinking about you despite how they act to your face.
So I just want to say be aware of feelings and educate yourself. Yeah sure I will educate myself to when it comes to so called word plays and boy am I far from perfect as you can see in this post but seriously are people so ignorant as to not know WHY they cause offence?
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Thorsten-Krings — 17 years ago(March 27, 2009 09:40 AM)
I don't get your point. There was nothing negative about what Sir David said. The same kind of joke is around about every nationality in the world in eve1c84ry language there is because it's nfunny that names can sound like things in your language. he did not imply inferiority. In fact he did not even make a statement about people from Pakistan. He should not have to be afraid to make a joke like this. Besides, I think it's just powerplay going on here, about who has the power to control discourse on a meta-level.
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archer75 — 17 years ago(April 08, 2009 12:00 PM)
I would take a different stance. The minute a joke starts with a race, a colour of skin, a gender etc, there are undertones of an ism. I always find that the best way to tell if a joke is funny instead of racist is to remove the description
An Irishman walks into a bar and says "ow"
A man walks into a bar and says "ow"
It's still the same joke (even if it's not that funny)
What do you call a pakistani cloackroom attendant "Mahat Macoat"
What do you call a cloakroom attendant "Mahat Macoat"
It certainly loses some of its appeal without the implication of pakistani, therefore by my standard (and I know not everyone's) it makes DJ joke has racist undertones, even if the intent or the person saying it doesn't