Why are bald eagle eggs protected by US law, but not unborn humans?
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TheEternalCherry — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 09:58 PM)
Yet millions of fetuses are killed each year because much of the general public, and the government, don't see them as valuable human life.
I'm not even trying to get on a conservative soapbox either. I'm liberal, but abortion is one of the few issues I stray on, because I believe it is the ultimate act of disrespect towards human life. I'm aware that abortion is rarely something any woman gets excited about and it's usually for financial reasons and I think that conservatives who oppose abortion as well as free birth control, welfare, food stamps, etc. are the ultimate hypocrites but I don't think abortion is the answer at all.
Ideally women would place the children they can't/don't want to have up for adoption, and even more ideally more people would actually adopt so people don't shrug that off as an option that dooms a child to a sh!tty life.
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PlasticPrada — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 10:51 PM)
Yet millions of fetuses are killed each year because much of the general public, and the government, don't see them as valuable human life.
A woman terminating her pregnancy is different than someone coming up and stabbing her stomach, killing both. Can't equate the two no matter how hard you try.
I'm not even trying to get on a conservative soapbox either. I'm liberal, but abortion is one of the few issues I stray on, because I believe it is the ultimate act of disrespect towards human life. I'm aware that abortion is rarely something any woman gets excited about and it's usually for financial reasons and I think that conservatives who oppose abortion as well as free birth control, welfare, food stamps, etc. are the ultimate hypocrites but I don't think abortion is the answer at all.
You're a man. You're opinion on the issue is irrelevant since it doesn't concern you. Human sustainable life (keyword: sustainable), is when the fetus can live outside the womb. Any fetus under 5 months cannot, therefore it isn't a living thing. It's more a parasite as it literally feeds off of the mother to survive. A cell isn't human life. End of.
Ideally women would place the children they can't/don't want to have up for adoption, and even more ideally more people would actually adopt so people don't shrug that off as an option that dooms a child to a sh!tty life.
Giving a child up for adoption can be just as emotionally scarring as abortion. And since you're so pro-life, are you gonna adopt the baby? Since you want to protect it's life so much, where are you at the adoption agencies? You do know that a majority of children don't actually get adopted, but rather get pushed along through the foster system and then tossed on the street at 18, right? You pro-lifers will cry against the lives of cells, but once the baby is born you pay it dust. -
TheEternalCherry — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 11:10 PM)
A woman terminating her pregnancy is different than someone coming up and stabbing her stomach, killing both. Can't equate the two no matter how hard you try.
Both end in a terminated pregnancy. Just because one seems worse doesn't mean the other isn't bad.
Giving a child up for adoption can be just as emotionally scarring as abortion. And since you're so pro-life, are you gonna adopt the baby? Since you want to protect it's life so much, where are you at the adoption agencies? You do know that a majority of children don't actually get adopted, but rather get pushed along through the foster system and then tossed on the street at 18, right? You pro-lifers will cry against the lives of cells, but once the baby is born you pay it dust.
This comment shows a blatant disregard for everything I said in my last reply. And for the record I'd love to adopt a kid when/if I start a family of my own. I agree that too many people don't adopt, that the adoption/foster system needs reform, and that the government should do more for the well-being of the impoverished, which would also greatly reduce the number of unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Hence why I'm not a conservative!!
I'm not sure how being a man makes my opinion irrelevant, but there are plenty of women who hold the same views I do. What would you like to say to them about whether or not their opinion matters?
Human sustainable life (keyword: sustainable), is when the fetus can live outside the womb. Any fetus under 5 months cannot, therefore it isn't a living thing. It's more a parasite as it literally feeds off of the mother to survive. A cell isn't human life. End of.
Something doesn't have to be capable of survival outside the womb to be valuable. Why do you think miscarriage is such a horrible, traumatic thing for all involved?
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Ultraviolenxe — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 10:54 PM)
Here you go again. But I'm sure if Gaga got pregnant from her traumatic rape, you'd have a whole other opinion. Also bald eagles are going extinct and humans are overpopulating. I guess you failed to google that part.
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TheEternalCherry — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 11:15 PM)
You are aware that ~90% of abortions have nothing to do with rape, incest, or even harm to the mother's life? But continue to act like that's the rule and not the exception.
I don't think the government has any right to tell a woman who was raped whether or not she should carry her child to term, even if I still believe abortion isn't the answer. Women who become pregnant from consensual sex should know that there's no fool-proof way to prevent pregnancy. If you make your bed, you should lay in it and accept the consequences. You don't even have to raise the child if you don't have the resources.
But of course the government also needs to make birth control more available and we need better sex education.
And the bald eagle conservation laws have little to do with it being an endangered species; it's largely because it's a national symbol of America. We consider a damn bird more important than human life.
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