Shame on The Academy for handling Liza the way they did.
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RockaDee_Requited — 11 years ago(April 17, 2014 11:09 PM)
Ok.
Let me educate you.
Gender is not sex, and sex is not gender. Sex is biological. We cannot change our sex, that is a correct statement. Gender is a social construct, created over time by man. In different cultures, it can mean different things.
You can argue with me till you are blue in the face, however medical and psychological professionals will agree that Transgender individuals are not mentally ill.
Some people are just born with a brain that matches one gender, and a body that fits the other. If it upsets you that much that a person chooses to identify by a different gender you need to get out and see there are REAL struggles in this world.
Also, Riley did not mutilate her penis. She still very much has one. Not all transgendered individuals have bottom surgery.
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SimplemindedSociety — 11 years ago(May 25, 2014 06:28 PM)
'You can argue with me 1c84till you are blue in the face, however medical and psychological professionals will agree that Transgender individuals are not mentally ill.'
If medical science SAID HOMOSEXUALITY is a mental-illness, then that contradictes your evidence since it was once considered that. The same thing could happen with so-called TG; it could be considered a mental-illness later. Medical science once said too many eggs was dangerous, then retracted it. Reciprocals
'We cannot change our sex',
You don't say!
'Also, Riley did not mutilate her penis. She still very much has one. Not all transgendered individuals have bottom surgery.'If no bottom surgery, then that contradicts the passion to "have the body match the mind", which TG claim.
TG just convince the doctor by nagging and insisting they were born in the wrong body, so the psych eventually BELIEVES THEM. Shrinks ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU TELL THEM, AND THEY CAN BE FOOLED EASILY. -
reeda — 12 years ago(March 10, 2014 11:52 AM)
I, too, was disappointed with the Oz tribute. If nothing else, Liza & Lorna should have been the ones to introduce the clips and song. However, i do think that Pink did a very good job with Over the Rainbow. I like the idea of giving Judy a posthumous award. Alas, another missed opportunity.
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goleafsgo27 — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 01:52 AM)
As to Liza never singing Over the Rainbow, I recall hearing her sing it some years back, beautifully, leading me to decide that she is the only singer I'd ever want to hear doing it, besides her mom of course.
I have seen enough to know I have seen too much.
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goleafsgo27 — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 11:24 AM)
And at her Liza's Back concert in 2002 in NYC (and CD), she sang Never Never Land, ending it with the last stanza of Over the Rainbow. So we're sort of both right.
I have seen enough to know I have seen too much.
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elisedfr — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 06:24 AM)
It was all a real mess. If they wanted to honor Judy Garland with a tribute, they should have done so properly. Hell, it's not so difficult to make a good tribute these days
And the joke was pretty dumb to be honest. I'm surprised Liza did not get more angry about it. After all, she had been invited to represent an important part of the ceremony. It's not as if she was Bob Hope and here for the jokes.
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PMAN — 11 years ago(March 12, 2015 04:51 AM)
Well said florlite. Sorry for real late reply. Looking up Liza since it is her birthday and read your post. But to answer your post. Why Wizard of Oz? The Academy should have tribute to the films of 1939. For many movie/film buff to the mainstream film historian that was the year of film history where more classics came out that year than any year since. They blew it!
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BMWGriffith — 11 years ago(March 12, 2015 11:31 PM)
There was a time when Oscar night was Liza's night. She picked up her Oscar onstage in 1973, she opened the show in 1974 and closed it in 1984 by paying tribute to Ethel Merman. She also co-hosted the show in 1983 and she didn't need to resort to cheap gimmickry to keep the audience and viewers entertained. Unlike Ellen, Liza's star wattage was more than big enough for the show.
For Ellen to use Liza for her low brow gag was an insult not only to Liza, but to Hollywood. Liza has made her mark in the film industry. Ellen is a mere leach. I guess the producers of this year's Oscar show also felt the tribute to Wizard of Oz was wanting and they went big time in paying tribute to The Sound of Music. It was glorious to witness Lady Gaga treat the material and its star Julie Andrews with great reverence. It was a moving tribute and the highlight of the show.
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irishtom99 — 10 years ago(May 20, 2015 04:46 AM)
nothing wrong with being a liza fan..but in films,she had a VERY short shelf life,only starred in a
handful of movies..to dis jennifer lawrence as a wannabe or a "starlet" is uncalled for,she already,in her mid-20s,has a far more serious body of work than minelli,who stopped doing serious impactful work over 30 years ago,and hasnt carried a film in 40..wonderful talent,but the past is the past. -
BMWGriffith — 10 years ago(June 24, 2015 02:50 AM)
Anothing wrong with being a liza fan..but in films,she had a VERY short shelf life,only starred in a handful of movies..to dis jennifer lawrence as a wannabe or a "starlet" is uncalled for,she already,in her mid-20s,has a far more serious body of work than minelli,who stopped doing serious impactful work over 30 years ago,and hasnt carried a film in 40..wonderful talent,but the past is the past
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And what makes you think Jennifer Lawrence will be having a long and successful career??? Do you actually own a crystal ball? Everyone in the early 1970s thought Liza was IT. She had won the Oscar and shortly after, an Emmy. Liza was also in her mid-20s and she seemed unstoppable but the films she chose to do after Cabaret were major disappointments and they did stall her career in films. Yet she was never out of the limelight as she did Broadway and won Tonys and ruled the concert circuit.
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irishtom99 — 10 years ago(July 08, 2015 08:13 PM)
because she cant headline concerts???? Your drama queen is showing..she's not cher,Liza or barbara.but a serious actress ..and as far as crystal balls,YOURE the one who called her names..practice what you preach..nobody "dissed" your princess,princess..