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Roles Liza Minnelli could have tackled

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    filmmekker — 12 years ago(March 03, 2014 05:33 PM)

    I saw Victor/Victoria with Liza and disagree. She was perfect for that part. Julia Andrews was never believable as a man. Liza could have passed as a drag queen.
    Open the door for Mr. Muckle!!

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      brookwriter — 12 years ago(March 05, 2014 07:11 PM)

      Give UP, Ellen. 🙂
      Seriously, I agree withi you. I saw Liza in Victor/Victoria and as much as I love Julie Andrews, Minnelli gave not only the superior performance, but was strikingly convincing in the male drag sequences.

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        michaelm6000 — 13 years ago(December 05, 2012 09:50 PM)

        Back in the 70s, there was talk of pairing Liza with Goldie Hawn in the film version of Chicago. That would have been nothing less than spectacular. Not many people know that Goldie was quite good as a singer and dancer.
        More recently there was talk of Liza doing Sunset Boulevard (the musical), though I'm not sure she could have handled it vocally. The booze and cigarettes had taken their toll.

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          csmsplce — 13 years ago(December 15, 2012 07:58 PM)

          Wow, that's a lotta Liza! Some of these choices are ingeniousthe ones that stand out to me are all the Kathy Bates parts and "Notes on a Scandal"yes! Although Judi Dench was so brilliant. The only one I'd leave as originally cast: Cher in Moonstruck. All the rest, yes, I'd love to live on Planet Liza. So glad she got to shine in Cabaret.

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            rrb — 12 years ago(February 16, 2014 10:59 AM)

            OP: you're not gay by any chance, are you?
            Liza Minnelli has given good performances, and was one of the best entertainers in the world - 40 years ago. Sadly, troubles have bedeviled her from her 30s onward. Though now not without talent, she's lost much of what she had through physical ailments and addictions. And her strange behavior, most notoriously on that embarrassing Larry King episode, have understandably made her a target for mockery.
            You wildly overrate her as an actress. She has nowhere near the craft or versatility that Bates, Bening, Streep, Huston, Spacek, McDormand and Dench have (few do), and can't compete with Keaton or Farrow in the roles Woody Allen wrote for them. She was 45 & too old for Thelma (don2000e to perfection by Geena Davis); too quirky and uncertain for the decisive Louise. Her best roles were off-beat, vulnerable waifs: Pookie and Sally Bowles. She did acquit herself well in the roles you mention in your penultimate paragraph; but she is not the supreme talent you fantasize her to be.

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              brookwriter — 12 years ago(March 06, 2014 03:23 PM)

              Thanks, I would rather "wildly overrate" a talent like Liza Minnelli than be a homophobe like yourself. But thanks for asking an irrelevant question. They are always educational.

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                rrb — 12 years ago(March 10, 2014 08:30 PM)

                ROTFLMAO!!!
                What a pathetic response! I'm a gay man - with a sense of humor, unlike yourself - so trying to come back at me by calling me a homophobe is beyond ridiculous.
                You find irrelevant questions "always educational"? Uhokay.
                It's one thing that you're just a gushing Minnelli fan (nothing gay about that) with no perspective on her talent - your attempt at a zinger rejoinder is laughably off-base. Can't wait to see what you try next!

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                  brookwriter — 12 years ago(March 20, 2014 07:46 PM)

                  I hope you made it off the floor.
                  I have known several homophobic homosexual men. You are not the first. You talk too loud in bars, are usually in the company of an overweight girl, and strain mightily to top everyone around you with what you perceive to be caustic wit.
                  Is this enough?

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                      Lee1179 — 12 years ago(April 01, 2014 05:01 AM)

                      I agree rrb. Just cause you asked if he was gay doesn't make you a homoph111cobe. There is nothing wrong with being gay. For him to get so offended by your questions proves that he is not comfortable in his own skin.

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                        SimplemindedSociety — 12 years ago(April 03, 2014 02:48 PM)

                        'For him to get so offended by your questions proves that he is not comfortable in his own skin.'
                        I doesn't prove anything. You don't know the man to know if he's comfortable in his own skin. Maybe some people don't think everything revolves around sexuality. That's what that 'proves'.

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                          cliffcarson-1 — 12 years ago(March 03, 2014 03:16 PM)

                          MAME she would have been perfect for

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                            WarpedRecord — 12 years ago(March 29, 2014 07:16 PM)

                            Interesting list. Can't say I agree with all of them or many of them because the actresses in most of these roles were very strong but I wish Liza had taken more nuanced roles in addition to the bombastic, self-referential parts she often seems to play.
                            Here's another possibility: How about Mary Ann Bankhead in "Love Liza," originally played by Kathy Bates. Or would that just confuse the issue?

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