evidence of homosexuality?
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SecretAgentNumberOne — 19 years ago(December 03, 2006 12:13 PM)
When he was in New York hanging out with the Factory crowd in the late sixties, according to cross-dressing Warhol-'Superstar' Holly Woodlawn, Morrison visited a gay den-of-iniquity called 'The Mine Shaft'. On the other hand, when he was in Amsterdam in '68, the ladies of the red light district apparently did some very good businessso perhaps he was bisexual/bib68curious, or maybe he was just interested in the gay-subculture because, back then, gays were the ultimate outcasts of society and he therefore sympathized with them (and the fact that his big hero Rimbaud was gay).
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Doc-McCoy — 18 years ago(June 14, 2007 07:16 AM)
People will write anything. There are very few documented instances when Morrison met Hendrix, and the one instance where there's any recording of it Morrison was falling down drunk, slurring vulgarities over and over.
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angel_eyez121004 — 18 years ago(July 15, 2007 10:41 PM)
I sincerely don't believe Jim was homosexual. I can't find any evidence of that even being true. He was way to into women. He loved women. He may of been bi-curious,but I think all of us have been bi-curious at one point in our lives. That's normal and there's nothing wrong with it. I just don't think Jim was homosexual. He doesn't come off that way. That's just how I feel about it.
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SimplemindedSociety — 15 years ago(August 06, 2010 03:40 AM)
" sincerely don't believe Jim was homosexual. I can't find any evidence of that even being true. He was way to into women. He loved women. He may of been bi-curious,but I think all of us have been bi-curious at one point in our lives. That's normal and there's nothing wrong with it. I just don't think Jim was homosexual. He doesn't come off that way."
and how does a homosexual "come off"?
You don't WISH to think of him being bisexual or gay, so therefore, he's not. And how would you find "evidence"? You weren't in his life,you never met the man. You think he's going to write that he's bisexual(or gay) in his books because he was so "open"?
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aoa8212 — 13 years ago(August 08, 2012 09:46 AM)
I don't think there's any evidence that Mr Mojo Risin was homosexual, or even had homosexual tendencies. He had romantic relationships with women and plenty of sex on the side with them too. If there was any evidence, I'm sure we would have seen it by now. Morrison was also a pretty uninhibited guy and often inebriated, so it's not like he was always hiding some deep, dark secret or something. He was who he was.
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TheMemphian — 18 years ago(July 27, 2007 04:51 PM)
I doubt he was gay, but there is a homosexual characteristic in many of his influences. Brecht's "Whiskey Bar" had a line which Jim changed for the LP, but he says on a bootleg"Show me the way, to the next little BOY."
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angel_eyez121004 — 18 years ago(July 28, 2007 08:46 AM)
Well what I found on Brecht's "Alabama Song" lyrics was this
"Show me the way to the next pretty girl
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
Show me the way to the next pretty girl
Oh don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find the next pretty girl
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die"
It says "next pretty GIRL"Not "Show me the way to the next little boy" like you said..
Here's the entire lyrics
Alabama Song
by Bertolt Brecht
Show me the way to the next whisky bar
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
Show me the way to the next whisky bar
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find the next whisky bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die
Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say say good-bye
We've lost our good old mamma
And must have whisky
Oh, y5b4ou know why.
Show me the way to the next pretty girl
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
Show me the way to the next pretty girl
Oh don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find the next pretty girl
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die
Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say good-bye
We've lost our good old mamma
And must have a girl
Oh, you know why.
Show me the way to the next little dollar
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
Show me the way to the next little dollar
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find the next little dollar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die
Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say good-bye
We've lost our good old mamma
And must have dollars
Oh, you know why.
Jim was not gay
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TheMemphian — 18 years ago(July 29, 2007 07:14 PM)
Humm, I only assumed it was the original lyric because Jim used the word "Boy" on the bootleg (The Live Doors, March 1967, Bulldog Records, BG CD 012) Maybe Jim was gay. (tee-hee) Or, maybe he was just teasing the San Francisco audience.
As for the original point, there is much gayness in Jim's Herofile, as is for any artistic person. I'm sure it was a consideration weather he explored it or not. -
Doc-McCoy — 18 years ago(July 31, 2007 04:05 PM)
"Or, maybe he was just teasing the San Francisco audience."
That would be my guess. He was a world-class audience provoker, even commenting in interviews that much of what he said and did onstage was to provoke audience reaction.
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ThereWillBeBeer — 13 years ago(September 15, 2012 07:43 AM)
I think he may have written that line in The Soft Parade just as another way of being anti-establishment or counterculture. That shock value thing. As I think Mick Jagger does when he sings 'how come you taste so good, just like a young man should' in Brown Sugar, changing the line from 'just like a young girl should' or 'like a black girl should' in the original studio version of the song. Jagger actually started doing that as early as 1972 and has sung it that way every single performance since, that I'm aware of.
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jefgg — 13 years ago(February 11, 2013 04:49 PM)
Jim was not gay. Notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat. Jim was tolerant and not uncomfortable around gays. In the book "No One Here Gets Out Alive" it said that he politely declined gays who approached him for sex. He said something like "that's not my trip". The time he said he wanted to blow Hendrix he was joking while admiring Hendrix's guitar playing. Jim had gay friends and The Doors let a gay group use some of their office space. He enjoyed anal sex with female groupies. None of those things mean that he was a homosexual.